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#occupy London....

The really daft thing is that quite a lot of the "truth" brigade are online saying how the occupations are some kind of Soros front and all controlled etc.

So the truthers who are at the occupation are presumably dupes of the very people they are out campaigning against, and people denouncing the NWO are all part of some NWO plot, ah yes. Hidden in plain sight innit. If THEY are secretive it proves they are up to know good. If THEY are out in the open, it proves it is part of the luciferian masonic plot.

Don't just be a sheeple zombie. It's what THEY want.

Don't protest, it makes you a dupe for THEM.
I think Alex Prisonplanetinforwars Jones came out against the occupy movement today.
I thought he might, lol.
 
Well that was an amusing row :)

It looks like the two people who put across the zionist bullshit are leaving the group of their own volition rather than being banned.. another group has been setup that won't allow any zionist or anti-zionist posting (which is a bit odd, liberal authoritarianism?).. The person who set it up was clearly against the zionism stuff but didn't want people to row over it.

I'm amused that I didn't get banned out of the group, from the sounds of it I was much more forthright than Blagsta.

Will see how this develops before I stop being part of it. At the moment I think that the zionist fucks have been made to feel unwelcome enough.. one has said he will post on his facebook wall and make it clear that the occupy birmingham does not represent the 99% but is the anarchist and communist people.. somehow imagining that his racist bullshit represents more people than anarchism and communism.. funny in a way, especially since I'd say many people invovled are into fotl stuff and unlikely to be anarchists or communists.

e2a: Luther one of the admins deleted the post where someone had posted up a link to the protocols, along with a rant about the zionist banking system.. this post was after whatever went on that Aidan got kicked out over, so you will have missed at least one of the main rows.
 
quite a few of those existed before.. there were at least 4 occupy birmingham pages setup by different people before the 15th, and there were two groups.
I'm only aware of one group that has been setup following this row
 
Well that was an amusing row :)

It looks like the two people who put across the zionist bullshit are leaving the group of their own volition rather than being banned.. another group has been setup that won't allow any zionist or anti-zionist posting (which is a bit odd, liberal authoritarianism?).. The person who set it up was clearly against the zionism stuff but didn't want people to row over it.

I'm amused that I didn't get banned out of the group, from the sounds of it I was much more forthright than Blagsta.

Will see how this develops before I stop being part of it. At the moment I think that the zionist fucks have been made to feel unwelcome enough.. one has said he will post on his facebook wall and make it clear that the occupy birmingham does not represent the 99% but is the anarchist and communist people.. somehow imagining that his racist bullshit represents more people than anarchism and communism.. funny in a way, especially since I'd say many people invovled are into fotl stuff and unlikely to be anarchists or communists.

e2a: Luther one of the admins deleted the post where someone had posted up a link to the protocols, along with a rant about the zionist banking system.. this post was after whatever went on that Aidan got kicked out over, so you will have missed at least one of the main rows.

The person who set up the other group has accused me of being a troll for saying what I did. It may also be because I was critical of a few of the main ideas on there, like Zeitgeist/Venus Project, FotL etc, although I was trying my best to be diplomatic, I guess he doesn't like awkward questions. Others accused me of being a spook for asking questions and objecting to anti-semitism.

One of their problems is that a lot of them aren't aware of the anti-semitic nature of saying things like "Rothschild Zionists" control the world. They don't understand the history behind it.

Anyway, I may attend the GA tonight, I may not. The farce last night hardly inspired me or made me think anything useful or productive will come out of this.
 
Others accused me of being a spook for asking questions and objecting to anti-semitism.
They just joined the dots. 'Blagsta' is an anagram of 'Stalag B', a system of camps built by the nazis to house POWs, but who else did they put in camps? - that's right - the Jew.
 
The person who set up the other group has accused me of being a troll for saying what I did. It may also be because I was critical of a few of the main ideas on there, like Zeitgeist/Venus Project, FotL etc, although I was trying my best to be diplomatic, I guess he doesn't like awkward questions. Others accused me of being a spook for asking questions and objecting to anti-semitism.

One of their problems is that a lot of them aren't aware of the anti-semitic nature of saying things like "Rothschild Zionists" control the world. They don't understand the history behind it.

Anyway, I may attend the GA tonight, I may not. The farce last night hardly inspired me or made me think anything useful or productive will come out of this.

I wish I'd seen the posts that led to your ejection.. You can't have been any more forthright than me.. I mean the first thing I said to the person who posted the protocols was "fuck off racist" .. I guess maybe some of the other people know me cos I've spent a day at the camp and been around on the wall a bit more than you.

I hope you come to the GA today and see what is said, I'm still willing to give this more time to become clear whether it's fruitloop bullshit or not, but you know I'll be walking away from it too if it's clear it's going to be dominated by fotl/ct/zeitgeist types.. I think the space is still there to be challenged and won.

Does someone have a good link to the history of anti-semitism connected with the protocols and jewish banking conspiracy crap?
 
The person who set up the other group has accused me of being a troll for saying what I did. It may also be because I was critical of a few of the main ideas on there, like Zeitgeist/Venus Project, FotL etc, although I was trying my best to be diplomatic, I guess he doesn't like awkward questions. Others accused me of being a spook for asking questions and objecting to anti-semitism.

One of their problems is that a lot of them aren't aware of the anti-semitic nature of saying things like "Rothschild Zionists" control the world. They don't understand the history behind it.

Anyway, I may attend the GA tonight, I may not. The farce last night hardly inspired me or made me think anything useful or productive will come out of this.

They've moved on to Masonic conspiracies now :facepalm:

But yes, the problem is that a lot of them are new to protest and dont understand why this bollocks has to be challenged whenever it rears its head.
 
@rutita,

ask them are they going to support the Sparks, a key moment imo...

Yes, this was raised at the GA last night. They are in talks with people from different sites around London. There was a consensus that this is the kind of thing they should be supporting and people seemed willing to get involved.
 
There's somebody at the Birmingham occupation who sports a "legalise cannabis alliance" badge.. I've not broached the subject with him cos there's been some recent crapness with the LCA that I don't want to get involved with.. but I suspect he would have some reasonable weed if you want to make the trip up here like.. ;)
 
There's somebody at the Birmingham occupation who sports a "legalise cannabis alliance" badge.. I've not broached the subject with him cos there's been some recent crapness with the LCA that I don't want to get involved with.. but I suspect he would have some reasonable weed if you want to make the trip up here like.. ;)

You're all missing the point. :mad:
 
You're all missing the point. :mad:

Yes, you're right I have, sorry.. I'm not sure whether the presence of someone involved with the LCA bodes well or badly for your cash dreams in Birmingham.. I mean, clearly there'll be a market here, but he's probably got quite a decent line on weed already..
 
You're all missing the point. :mad:
Your habit doesn't interest me. I prefer it if it was decriminalised at the very least so people who need help don't have to say 'Hello, I'm a criminal' before they get help with their addiction, etc. A more liberal attitude reduced harm & numbers using in Nederlands. A change in the way heroin addiction is treated could happen too - using real heroin at 6p per day instead of the £20 per day when treated with methodone + higher success rate of weaning off.
 
A doped up populace is less likely to complain. Note the lack of meaningful political activism in the 90s with the advent of rave culture.

Errr, that was when environmentalism took off again, so no. Besides, rave culture was political, it just didn't fit into the standard institutional frameworks that activists and politics like to work with/believe in.
 
Yes it did, between the mid-70s and the late 80s it was in the doldrums. Wasn't til Chernobyl, acid rain and the ozone hole that it took off again in terms of large numbers of citizens getting engaged etc.
This is your academic version of the world, one you haven't lived yourself.
 
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