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#occupy London....

Taxpayers' Alliance are out in force today, not supporting the people as per usual. Do they get charity status? They shouldn't. Note how Sky abbreviates 'Taxpayer's' - proof that they only represent one person! LOL

 
free spirit said:
yes, this.

If the big construction firms manage to destroy the JIB agreement it will have a huge negative impact on all electricians across the country, and would give the green light for all other trades to be further attacked as the JIB system's about the best example of all trades that I'm aware of.

We're not formally part of the JIB system, but still use it to know what the going rate should be as I'm sure do loads of smaller companies who employ sparks but are not formally part of the JIB system, so having the JIB system so badly undermined as to make it an irrelevance will have a massive impact across the board. It would also mean the big companies could then undercut any other companies attempting to stick to current JIB wage rates for their sparks, creating pressure for a downward wage spiral in the industry.

If the occupy lot are to be seen to actually stand for anything concrete, then they really need to get some significant support down to the sparks demo tomorrow (IIRC). If they do this, then there might actually be a chance of gaining some respect and solidarity from the union grassroots. Got to be more effective a use of their time than just camping on the steps of st pauls IMO.

eta - and it looks like it's 2-3 blocks away from st pauls...http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...ainst-35-pay-cut-de-skilling-ec4v-4dy.282700/
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I've posted the details on the occupy london facebook page and event page, but without going there later, I can't do much more.
 
Luther Blissett said:
Taxpayers' Alliance are out in force today, not supporting the people as per usual. Do they get charity status? They shouldn't. Note how Sky abbreviates 'Taxpayer's' - proof that they only represent one person! LOL

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Owned! The fat fucking heap of shit. A worthlessly, useless good-for-nothing intellectual brownshirt piece of filth had his balls skewered live on tv - good to watch.
 
ddraig said:
what the fuck are you on about? :confused:
how the fuck can you compare choosing other coffee/tea places over cunty starbucks to having to use the NHS???
are you fucking serious? :hmm:
it is very easy to avoid starbucks, m&s and such like
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It's not very important though is it? These tiny-minority consumer boycott campaigns are not really worth agonising over. I choose to avoid certain products too sometimes but I know how little (nothing) it achieves so I don't care that much. If I'm hungry and the only place open is McDonalds I eat McDonalds. It doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite, just that I choose to put my energy into things that might produce real change. Perspective is all I ask for...
 
with the number of coffee places about is it really that difficult to choose somewhere else?

my point was that upside down janine was talking a steaming pile of shit and was a totally crap comparison
 
ddraig said:
with the number of coffee places about is it really that difficult to choose somewhere else?

my point was that upside down janine was talking a steaming pile of shit and was a totally crap comparison
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But it's also not hard to talk about the substantive political issues around the occupation, so why not do that?
 
fine, i conceded that point and even i shit/piss in them and mcshite

i was taking issue with downward dogs stupid non point about the nhs
 
Seems to me to be a lot of little generals unhappy that things aren't going their way. I don't support 100% of anything, let alone #occupy. But at least they are articulating an anger that mainstream and extreme traditional politics has failed to address. It is easy to criticise, less easy to engage.
 
I've just been kicked out of the Occupy Birmingham Facebook group for criticising anti-semitic statements. :(
 
joneshead.jpg
 
Police blockade coming under fire (directed at the protesters though :rolleyes:)

Traders under threat from City protesters

Businesses near the London Stock Exchange say they could be hit by a "catastrophic" loss of trade if anti-capitalist protests outside St Paul's Cathedral go on until Christmas.

Paternoster Square has been cordoned off by police since being targeted by the Occupy London Stock Exchange movement on Saturday. The protesters have set up camp outside St Paul's but the square - which hosts restaurants, bars and shops - has been closed off to passing trade. Some businesses say they could be forced to cut staff or shut.

Gerhard Jacobs, manager of the Paternoster Chop House, said trade had fallen 40 per cent after the square's management blocked most visitors. He said: "As traders we feel they should be less strict on how they control the entrances. If it was like this at Christmas it would be catastrophic."

Giovanni Marcis, manager of Birley Sandwiches, said: "If it stays like this for another week we will need to trim down the staff." Paternoster Square management refused to comment. Protesters say their encampment is expanding and stands at 150 tents. They are making plans to set up a second camp nearby or move their base entirely if they run out of space outside St Paul's.
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23999705-traders-under-threat-from-city-protesters.do
 
Boris Johnson urged to meet Occupy London Stock Exchange activists

But while the London mayor and the prime minister have been invited to address Occupy London Stock Exchange activists, they might have to wait to get their audience.

‘Boris, you’re more than welcome to come – or any other politicians,’ protester Roman McNern, 36, said. ‘All we ask is that they put their names on the waiting list.’

Among those speaking outside the London landmark yesterday were chartered accountants discussing their fears for the economy.
Labour MP David Winnick called for Mr Cameron and chancellor George Osborne to visit the City to ‘have a chat’ with the group.

The ‘calm and peaceful’ activists claim they are receiving tip-offs from bankers horrified by the economy.

A donated kitchen unit is set to arrive on site today, as the demonstrators plan to stay until Christmas at least.
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Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/878988-boris-johnson-urged-to-meet-occupy-london-stock-exchange-activists#ixzz1bAhInm1s
 
The really daft thing is that quite a lot of the "truth" brigade are online saying how the occupations are some kind of Soros front and all controlled etc.

So the truthers who are at the occupation are presumably dupes of the very people they are out campaigning against, and people denouncing the NWO are all part of some NWO plot, ah yes. Hidden in plain sight innit. If THEY are secretive it proves they are up to know good. If THEY are out in the open, it proves it is part of the luciferian masonic plot.

Don't just be a sheeple zombie. It's what THEY want.

Don't protest, it makes you a dupe for THEM.
 
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