Now Jurgenna believe us - Liverpool 20/21
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sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
At least we scored. Is Thiago the wrong player for us?
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Thought he was excellent in parts tbh
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Yeah, can't hold a midfield on his own. In an ideal world Fabinho would hold with Thiago and Hendo aheadIt all work out in the end..
He does make laugh when he's desperately trying to run back..all arms pumping but he's still slow as fuck
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I'm not sure how much cash is in the kitty but I think it's time to buy a proper centre back, one to hold a defence together and play alongside big Virg when he gets back.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
It's more FSG don't want to spend in the current climate, odds are we'd pay over the odds (quite considerably) even for a half decent CB, they would already need to be based in England also most likely due to all the travel restrictions. So buying someone that would probably cost £10m normally, would probably cost in excess of £20m, at a time when you don't want to be spending over the odds on something, sadly it makes no sense from an econmics business sense, but then, also spending £20m now and not losing out on a Champions League spot (which could happen) would be classed as money saved, rather than money lost. I guess you decide to take the gamble, and the gamble will be we don't need to spend money and we'll still qualify for Champions League and be quids in. Fail to qialify though and it could set us back years again. Players will no doubt leave, we've already lost Gini for nowt by the looks of it.
Loans are probably the best option, but none of our rivals are going to loan us their back up centre halfs, and everyone else isn't going to want to lose someone in their starting 11.
Klopp isn't happy about it if the Mirror is to be believed, but it is what it is. Klopp has to take some of the blame, eyebrows were raised when Lovren left and no one else was brought in, but I guess we never expected to have Gomez and Virg both end up with long term injuries, we knew Fabinho could do a job there too. The bigger problem in my opinion is how it's effected the midfield. Pulling out midfielders to play there, especially Henderson has had a huge impact, Henderson missing anyway who can come back collect the ball and do the spreading of the ball that Virg can also do from the back.
WIlliams (was it) sadly just looked way out of his depth against a team like United.
Its a problem thats created two other problems, and then a front line that's not been performing. if Mane isn't playing well, the rest of the front 2 always seem to be off as well (in my opinion Mane is our best player)
It's a lot of things all going on at once. Not making excuses January has always been an off month for us, 2017 was on par for being as bad as this one, but at least this one has some valid excuses.
Loans are probably the best option, but none of our rivals are going to loan us their back up centre halfs, and everyone else isn't going to want to lose someone in their starting 11.
Klopp isn't happy about it if the Mirror is to be believed, but it is what it is. Klopp has to take some of the blame, eyebrows were raised when Lovren left and no one else was brought in, but I guess we never expected to have Gomez and Virg both end up with long term injuries, we knew Fabinho could do a job there too. The bigger problem in my opinion is how it's effected the midfield. Pulling out midfielders to play there, especially Henderson has had a huge impact, Henderson missing anyway who can come back collect the ball and do the spreading of the ball that Virg can also do from the back.
WIlliams (was it) sadly just looked way out of his depth against a team like United.
Its a problem thats created two other problems, and then a front line that's not been performing. if Mane isn't playing well, the rest of the front 2 always seem to be off as well (in my opinion Mane is our best player)
It's a lot of things all going on at once. Not making excuses January has always been an off month for us, 2017 was on par for being as bad as this one, but at least this one has some valid excuses.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Yeah, it'll be good for him long term as he has barely any experience but he looked a day late and a dollar short throughout.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
You'll have the same problem that we (Spurs) are having looking for a centre back (Dier is the permanent fixture, with a host of partners - Alderweireld getting on a bit, Sanchez unconvincing, Rodon new, young and inexperienced). There aren't that many convincing options out there, and clubs know it and charge a premium accordingly.
Skriniar (Inter Milan) is a good player, but we've been quoted £55m.
Probably a better long term option is Ben White at Brighton, but he's probably £40m and has spent at least part of this season in midfield despite BHA playing a back 3.
Skriniar (Inter Milan) is a good player, but we've been quoted £55m.
Probably a better long term option is Ben White at Brighton, but he's probably £40m and has spent at least part of this season in midfield despite BHA playing a back 3.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Wasn't it. Love that about Shaq, the huge confidence to hit it first time rather than carry the ball like most other players would have done.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Matip is out for the rest of the season. All three senior CBs.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Minamino possibly off on loan to Saints. He's hardly set the Prem alight so far and I'm struggling to see how he gets games with us, so possibly a good move for everyone.
Looks like a good bit of last minute business.
Kabak a great deal (try before you buy) and Davies looks like a solid player. Glad Minamino is out on loan. He has loads of potential but needs PL game time to get experience.
NIce to have some defenders but nicer to have the midfield back.
Kabak a great deal (try before you buy) and Davies looks like a solid player. Glad Minamino is out on loan. He has loads of potential but needs PL game time to get experience.
NIce to have some defenders but nicer to have the midfield back.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There's a few matches affected by this including Chelsea/Athetico, Man City/ Gladbach in the CL , possibly Porto/ Juventus and deffo Arsenal/Benfica ,in the Euro.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
League's gone. Genuinely worried about 4th. Why didn't we play either of our new centre backs and have a chance against City's midfield?
mack
Fact Me Till I Fart
Such a shame..but it lets look on the bright side eh?
We've got some 6 pointers coming up Leicester, Everton with a cl in between..team wise I'd stick both new Cab's in and move Fab as the DM with Winaldum and Henderson in the middle.
It's been a fantastic journey ...I'm ok with what we've achieved over the last 3 seasons and with a bit of support we can still finish off the season well.
YNWA
We've got some 6 pointers coming up Leicester, Everton with a cl in between..team wise I'd stick both new Cab's in and move Fab as the DM with Winaldum and Henderson in the middle.
It's been a fantastic journey ...I'm ok with what we've achieved over the last 3 seasons and with a bit of support we can still finish off the season well.
YNWA
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Indeed. We played out of our skins the last two seasons, but that level of football is clearly not sustainable three years running. Glad we are out of the title race now. Takes pressure off and we can concentrate on top four and getting a result against Leipzig. Then come back stronger with a full set of defenders, and raring to get the title back next season.
