NH Carnival 2011

[ska invita]

Lots of carnival warm up/weekend things showing up - thought they deserve their own thread (along with general carnival chat):

nice free warm up:

Carnival weekend:
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RDK HI FI + MANASSEH sun 28th aug £5 9-Late The Music Bar, Brixton Hill SW2 1FD

Was planning on going to this, but just saw this...
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PLan B
Sun 28th August
Deadly Rhythm Carnival Special
David Rodigan, Dillinja, & guests
10pm - 6am
£8 early bird, £10 advance,

Deadly Rhythm and The Heatwave join forces for a bank holiday special for those on the carnival band wagon. Plan B favourite and king of dancehall – David Rodian graces the venue once again to show that no one can jump around a stage harder than him. Also on the line-up are Dillinja, Trojan Sound System and Deadly Rhythm Soundsystem.

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[ska invita]

Could mods please move to music forum - my mistake

 

[Callie]

yay carnival!

 

[ska invita]

yay carnival!

i concur


going to try and not get trashed and end up here posting shite about dizzee rascals bonkers this year

 

[DJWrongspeed]

WahHoo! as ever , best free festival in the UK, just go early on sunday and avoid the crowds.

 

[ringo]

This is the final Carnival for Jah Observer Sound System before they go into retirement. For many years it's been my favourite spot, they'll be missed but will be going out with a bang and should be rammed with people stopping by to pay their respects.

 

[Crispy]

Carnival will be called off this year, you can bet on it.

 

[Badgers]

Carnival will be called off this year, you can bet on it.

It seems likely

If football matches with small crowds by comparison are being cancelled things don't bode well. I hope that it does not get called off and there is a bit of time to calm things down.

 

[Greebo]

IMHO this year Carnival is needed more than ever.

 

[Badgers]

IMHO this year Carnival is needed more than ever.

I agree Greebo and think it would be a real shame.

 

[WWWeed]

IMHO this year Carnival is needed more than ever.

This is what I have been trying to say (albeit very badly)

There's a lot of people like me who look cant afford to go away on holiday and look at carnival as a well earned break from the reality of day to day life in and around London. If carnival does not go ahead there's gonna be a lot of pissed off people. Each year a group of about 30/40 of us meet up at carnival and given how hectic most of our lifes are atm, its the only opportunity everyone gets to see each other in a reasonably happy setting.

I cant image the news will go down too well if they do cancel it (I REALLY hope they dont).

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

. If carnival does not go ahead there's gonna be a lot of pissed off people. .

Riot if they do, riot if they don't.
Tough call.

 

[Yelkcub]

I live in Ladbroke Grove and was really looking forward to it. Now I hope they call if off. I wish that wasn't the case but if we can't manage a couple of hundreds fuckwits, what's gonna happen if a small portion of the 1.5m people get unruly?

Not worth the risk

 

[Greebo]

As far as I can tell, a lot of the trouble has been caused by young people who've got a bit carried away with the idea of showing how hard they are by smashing windows, setting a few fires and getting something nice - not a lot of violence against non police. So yeah, punish all of London for a few silly little fuckwits who need to grow up, why don't you?

 

[Big Gunz]

The reality is that the entire budget for policing it has already been spent trying to sort out the riot. I can see Cameron making that excuse for calling it off. Gonna be another riot!

 

[Greebo]

The reality is that the entire budget for policing it has already been spent trying to sort out the riot. I can see Cameron making that excuse for calling it off. Gonna be another riot!

I'm going to really hate myself for saying this, but it sounds to me as if "you've got to fight for your right to party".

 

[ska invita]

I cant remember a NHC not going ahead can you? Perhaps worth remembering that it wasnt that long ago since there was some rioting post-NHC in 2008: (http://news.sky.com/home/video/15086822), which i think was put down to kids/gangs.

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[Yelkcub]

punish all of London for a few silly little fuckwits who need to grow up, why don't you?

It's not about punishment, it's about not being able to police a few hundred rioters and potential for needing to handle thousands.

 

[Greebo]

Tell that to young people who've worked hard to get ready for this year's carnival and weren't out making trouble.

 

[Yelkcub]

Tell that to young people who've worked hard to get ready for this year's carnival and weren't out making trouble.

And *ahem* 'young-ish' people who were looking forward to their first carnival as a resident!

You can't encourage £1m plus people into an area if there's a real possibility of trouble, on the basis that it's unfair to cancel it.

 

[Callie]

I reckon they'll cancel it, its too close and all thats happening at the moment is not going to be resolved by bank holiday.

Its a real shame if it is cancelled, would have been my third year in a row - its become a tradition and I think its a really nice day/days out.

 

[8115]

I bet they don't cancel it. People are mostly rioting at night, innit.

 

[Onket]

Received this on the (I think) TUC mailing list-

PRESS RELEASE

Too early to speculate about Carnival’s cancellation

London Notting Hill Carnival Limited has been receiving enquiries about the possibility of
cancelling this year’s carnival in light of the unfortunate events that took place in London
over the weekend.

We will be meeting with the Local Authorities, Carnivalists and the Metropolitan Police to
assess the severity of the impact that this may potentially have on Carnival 2011 and to
discuss the measures that will be put in place to avoid any untoward incidents.

LNHCL will like to reinforce the sentiments of Commander Bob Broadhurst, the
Metropolitan Police officer responsible for leading the Notting Hill Carnival policing
operation.

"Given the huge number of people who take part in Carnival crime rates are low, and our
policing style in recent years has ensured that less people become victims of crime. We
know that everyone who loves Carnival wants that success to continue this year.”

08 August 2011

www.nottinghill-carnival.com

ENDS

 

[Callie]

Thanks for that Onket - sounds fairly positive

 

[Greebo]

Thanks for that Onket - sounds fairly positive

Word.

 

[WWWeed]

yeah thanks for that! Please keep us up to date!

I was thinking if the met can not keep carnival safe how can they keep the Olympics safe? I am hoping carnival will go ahead so the police can demonstrate they can still deal with large public events.

 

[Greebo]

yeah thanks for that! Please keep us up to date!

I was thinking if the met can not keep carnival safe how can they keep the Olympics safe? I am hoping carnival will go ahead so the police can demonstrate they can still deal with large public events.

Or so that the general public can show that most of them prefer to enjoy themselves instead of making trouble for no very good reason.

 

[stuff_it]

yeah thanks for that! Please keep us up to date!

I was thinking if the met can not keep carnival safe how can they keep the Olympics safe? I am hoping carnival will go ahead so the police can demonstrate they can still deal with large public events.

Innit, if they stop carnival not only might it cause just as much if not more trouble, but they are putting the Olympics in the rape rack effectively, esp with it being such a brilliant show of how the other ticket affording classes live.

 

[Ted Striker]

The main problem (as I see it) for the carnival organisers, is the fight next year to keep it in NH as it is next year (and not some sanitised nonsense at Hyde Park, for example).

The 2012 one is predicted to be a completely different ball game. If this years' doesn't go ahead, it makes the above leap a whole lot easier to argue for. If for no other reason, it is that for which I think we desperately need to prevent it's cancellation this year.

 

[Onket]

Agree.