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New Zealand election 2020

Labour won 22 constituency votes in 2017. Have secured 2 as of now and projected to win 40 more

Looks like the Greens are going to hold their one constituency seat, Auckland Central, with 95% counted
 
Presume things there might be a bit like here, in that votes from rural areas (typically more conservative) take longer to gather and count, so Labour’s percentage may end up lower than it is now. Still, seems a good lesson in how to handle the Covid crisis and keep people on-side - by not letting it become a crisis in the first place. They‘ve definitely been rewarded for that.
 
JTG said:
. If Labour win a majority then they'll have done what the SNP have been doing and effectively broken the system that nearly guarantees coalition governments.
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Why is that "breaking" the system?
Ive never thought of it as a system designed to create coalitions - more one to represent more accurately?
 
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It's been years since I've heard him called Bob or Robert he will forever to me be know by his real moniker Piggy.
I also believe he drank his bathwater ( graffiti Wellington late sixties ).
 
The Winston Peters story, everybody (some of this is genuinely mental):

thespinoff.co.nz

The boxer and the towel: a short history of Winston Peters, politician

More than 40 years after he first arrived in parliament, Winston Peters is facing, barring a miracle, the end of the line, with his New Zealand First Party polling under 2%. But what a political career it has been. Danyl Mclauchlan traces the life and times of one of the most compelling and enduring
thespinoff.co.nz thespinoff.co.nz
 
Cloo said:
Congratulations to Aotearoa on being about the only English-speaking place in the world to be moving in a politically progressive direction.
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exactly - UK, US and Aus = ignorant shitholes. Canada = Well on the way to being an ignorant shithole.
 
JTG said:
No, nearly 90% of the vote is counted. The constituency votes are done by STV so takes a while to count. Labour have done well in rural and semi rural areas
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No the electorate count is done by first past the post not STV.

And it doesn't take a while to count compared to the UK as the electorates are so small and the count takes place at each voting location not in a central place.

We still have a few weeks of special vote counting which given the margins in some electorates and the need to allocate party list seats only to parties with over 5% of the votes it means the parties in parliament shouldnt change but one or two seats might yet change hands. It happened the last two elections.

The one thing that might happen party wise is that the Māori Party may lose their (electorate) gain back to Labour's Tamati Coffey.

Special votes are overseas votes, people who voted in the wrong electorates and people who enrolled to vote and voted at the same time (which favours young, working class, and Māori and Pasifika voters) so my guess is that any special vote changes will favour Labour and Greens - but thats just a guess.

ETA: the STV confusion might be because we do use STV in some local body elections, although a minority.

ETA2: it's worth pointing out that rural electorates have never been nailed on blue as a whole here this is a very rural country culturally and rural areas can have a strong working class, mining and Māori culture that favours Labour, the Labour Party were actually born in very rural West Coast on the South Island. So many of the new formerly blue electorates are actually in suburban Auckland and other areas with high British, South African, and Chinese populations who tend to favour National. They're the really interesting ones.
 
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Dom Traynor said:
No the electorate count is done by first past the post not STV.

And it doesn't take a while to count compared to the UK as the electorates are so small and the count takes place at each voting location not in a central place.

We still have a few weeks of special vote counting which given the margins in some electorates and the need to allocate party list seats only to parties with over 5% of the votes it means the parties in parliament shouldnt change but one or two seats might yet change hands. It happened the last two elections.

The one thing that might happen party wise is that the Māori Party may lose their (electorate) gain back to Labour's Tamati Coffey.

Special votes are overseas votes, people who voted in the wrong electorates and people who enrolled to vote and voted at the same time (which favours young, working class, and Māori and Pasifika voters) so my guess is that any special vote changes will favour Labour and Greens - but thats just a guess.

ETA: the STV confusion might be because we do use STV in some local body elections, although a minority.

ETA2: it's worth pointing out that rural electorates have never been nailed on blue as a whole here this is a very rural country culturally and rural areas can have a strong working class, mining and Māori culture that favours Labour, the Labour Party were actually born in very rural West Coast on the South Island. So many of the new formerly blue electorates are actually in suburban Auckland and other areas with high British, South African, and Chinese populations who tend to favour National. They're the really interesting ones.
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Fair enough. I probs got confused because reading the RNZ live blog they were reporting counts in the same way I remember seeing the Irish GE counts reported (ie 'x is y votes ahead atm but z is closing the gap') which makes sense if it's an STV election but I spose also makes sense if you're literally reporting the numbers counted so far. Over here you just get an announcement of final tallies and nothing before then.
 
JTG said:
Fair enough. I probs got confused because reading the RNZ live blog they were reporting counts in the same way I remember seeing the Irish GE counts reported (ie 'x is y votes ahead atm but z is closing the gap') which makes sense if it's an STV election but I spose also makes sense if you're literally reporting the numbers counted so far. Over here you just get an announcement of final tallies and nothing before then.
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Yeah I'm from the UK so I know (in fact we once met in a Hackney Wetherspoon).

I've spent most of the day trying to work out if my mate actually made it in to parliament using an excel spreadsheet and it turns out he did.
 
Cloo said:
Congratulations to Aotearoa on being about the only English-speaking place in the world to be moving in a politically progressive direction.
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tbf, one way or another the USA has been moving in that direction for the past few months, and - unless the polls in AZ, MI, WI and PA are massively wrong - Trump is 16 days away from being given the boot
 
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