Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[editor]

Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

 

[shagnasty]

Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

Why do you think they have a few skeletons in the cupboard,don't they all

 

[shagnasty]

Later interview on ABC australia mcmullan said coulsen and brookes were fully aware of what was happening

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/07/08/3265296.htm

 

[miniGMgoit]

Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

I was wondering this myself

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No, it's based on my long experience of unconscious prejudice married to the most liberal of values. And the most vigorous of denials.

Actually, just fuck off with this. How about you show some clear thinking for a change. To my very first point about how reading the Sun and being politically aware are not two things that readily go hand in hand. Do you disagree? Do you disagree that everyone who buys this shit is a part of the problem? Do you disagree that they are complicit in the nasty tactics used to bring them their latest celebrity scoops, because everyone knew a lot of nasty shit went on?

"It's all just comics" doesn't wash, because the stories may be made-up but the people featured aren't. What other excuse is there for buying this? What fucking politics does buying the Sun every day represent aside from the politics of who gives a fuck?

Anything other than condemnation of this narrow-minded, mean-spirited culture is just pathetic reverse snobbery, claiming the tabloids as some kind of expression of working class culture, which is presumptuous, wrong and insulting - in fact, just the kind of drivel the Sun itself would come out with. 'Dedicated to the people of Britain' my fucking arse.

 

[Gingerman]

Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

Not exactly sticking the boot in are they?

 

[Weller]

Later interview on ABC australia mcmullan said coulsen and brookes were fully aware of what was happening

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/07/08/3265296.htm

He looks a bit worse for wear in that , maybe Steve Coogan punched him in the Green Room after newsnight

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Source: Channel 4

That's a silly graphic. Rebekah is a dedicated networker: she has more than four friends - even ones of whom one would have heard.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

What, the Mirror, whose journalists (along with those of sister paper the Sunday Mirror) were paying corrupt private detective/murder suspect Jonathan Rees for access to information supplied by bent cops? Surely not!

 

[Hollis]

Later interview on ABC australia mcmullan said coulsen and brookes were fully aware of what was happening

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/07/08/3265296.htm

I dunno, someone buy the guy a drink.

 

[killer b]

he's pure gold. interested to hear the guardian are paying for him - i reckon they've got value for money these last few days.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Hopefully he can buy himself a new tie!

 

[London_Calling]

Futher to the issue of whether OFCOM has any bollocks... *takes a deep breath, holds nose and*.... Polly Toynbee had a couple of things to say:

Ofcom is the one regulator that might stop him: two years ago it did weaken Sky's grip on Premier League football and movies, forcing them to sell on the rights at a more reasonable price to others. Murdoch turned the pens of his papers against Ofcom and 10 days later Cameron made an unscheduled speech attacking "the quango state" – in which, oddly, of all the quangos ripe for attack or ridicule, only one was singled out for the axe: Ofcom. Inside the industry, rightly or wrongly it was assumed Coulson was the conduit for this message from the News Corp puppet-master. So now Ofcom may get another chance to declare Murdoch not "fit and proper" to take over all of Sky. But if so, surely that must mean he is not "fit and proper" to own any of it?

Meanwhile, US law may enter the fray. A former Labour cabinet minister has alerted attention to the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes an American company (News Corp) liable for colossal fines if any employee bribes a foreign official (the Met police) even if no one at head office knew. What's more, any whistleblower inside the company (sacked News of the World reporters), stands to win a percentage of that fine if they report acts of bribery.

Hmmmm.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/08/ed-miliband-broken-omerta-old-monster

 

[sheothebudworths]

I dunno, someone buy the guy a drink.

 

[co-op]

Actually, just fuck off with this. How about you show some clear thinking for a change. To my very first point about how reading the Sun and being politically aware are not two things that readily go hand in hand. Do you disagree? Do you disagree that everyone who buys this shit is a part of the problem? Do you disagree that they are complicit in the nasty tactics used to bring them their latest celebrity scoops, because everyone knew a lot of nasty shit went on?

"It's all just comics" doesn't wash, because the stories may be made-up but the people featured aren't. What other excuse is there for buying this? What fucking politics does buying the Sun every day represent aside from the politics of who gives a fuck?

Anything other than condemnation of this narrow-minded, mean-spirited culture is just pathetic reverse snobbery, claiming the tabloids as some kind of expression of working class culture, which is presumptuous, wrong and insulting - in fact, just the kind of drivel the Sun itself would come out with. 'Dedicated to the people of Britain' my fucking arse.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, I've just read the last 6-7 pages and until butchersapron showed up it was a far more interesting thread. Ignore until he posts something interesting.

 

[smokedout]

Actually, just fuck off with this. How about you show some clear thinking for a change. To my very first point about how reading the Sun and being politically aware are not two things that readily go hand in hand. Do you disagree? Do you disagree that everyone who buys this shit is a part of the problem? Do you disagree that they are complicit in the nasty tactics used to bring them their latest celebrity scoops, because everyone knew a lot of nasty shit went on?

"It's all just comics" doesn't wash, because the stories may be made-up but the people featured aren't. What other excuse is there for buying this? What fucking politics does buying the Sun every day represent aside from the politics of who gives a fuck?

everything you've just been accused of succinctly expressed in one post

 

[Ted Striker]

Later interview on ABC australia mcmullan said coulsen and brookes were fully aware of what was happening

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/07/08/3265296.htm

Ouch, Somewhat of a canary impression! If only he goes into the Inquiry like that!

 

[smokedout]

It is amazing, he just does not seem to get it, completely unapologetic, I want someone to ask him specifically if hacking Milly Dowler's phone was acceptable to him?

someone did the other day, he said it was out of order, but that at the time he was working then he could have imagined he might have listened to it if it was available

And I ask that because in truth I don't care nearly so much if they hacked Steve Coogan's phone. It may not be fair but I care a lot less about celebrities.

fuck him, and hugh grant, theyre jumping up and down all over this for an agenda which has nothing to do with millies phone being hacked - they want the millions that comes with fame but not the downside

the type of regulation/legislation they want would neuter the press, which is what they want, and people are falling for it, ironically, because they are celebrities and critical thinking has gone out of the window

 

[Ted Striker]

someone did the other day, he said it was out of order, but that at the time he was working then he could have imagined he might have listened to it if it was available



fuck him, and hugh grant, theyre jumping up and down all over this for an agenda which has nothing to do with millies phone being hacked - they want the millions that comes with fame but not the downside

the type of regulation/legislation they want would neuter the press, which is what they want, and people are falling for it, ironically, because they are celebrities and critical thinking has gone out of the window

Or maybe the general public think that hacking celebrities phones is a bit off too? I certainly do. (though not as bile inducing as Milly etc)

 

[smokedout]

Or maybe the general public think that hacking celebrities phones is a bit off too? I certainly do. (though not as bile inducing as Milly etc)

its not just about hacking phones, thats already illegal, they want more regulation of the press

 

[Tankus]

Originally Posted by editor
Is it me or does The Mirror appear to be rather quiet on all this?

Not exactly sticking the boot in are they?

The mail too are not using their front page ......cant think why

PCC top 10 complaints list

Daily Mail 406 complaints
The Sun 279 complaints
Daily Mirror 155 complaints
The Mail on Sunday 148 complaints
News of the World 138 complaints
The Daily Telegraph 133 complaints
Evening Standard 117 complaints
The Times 117 complaints
Daily Express 111 complaints
The Guardian 85 complaints

http://complaints.pccwatch.co.uk/

 

[little_legs]

That's a silly graphic. Rebekah is a dedicated networker: she has more than four friends - even ones of whom one would have heard.

these 4 live in Chipping Norton

 

[butchersapron]

its not just about hacking phones, thats already illegal, they want more regulation of the press

Spot on, people have to be very careful here - there's all sorts of agendas being passed off as part of one big united i hate murdoch too happy cloud here.

 

[butchersapron]

Actually, just fuck off with this. How about you show some clear thinking for a change. To my very first point about how reading the Sun and being politically aware are not two things that readily go hand in hand. Do you disagree? Do you disagree that everyone who buys this shit is a part of the problem? Do you disagree that they are complicit in the nasty tactics used to bring them their latest celebrity scoops, because everyone knew a lot of nasty shit went on?

"It's all just comics" doesn't wash, because the stories may be made-up but the people featured aren't. What other excuse is there for buying this? What fucking politics does buying the Sun every day represent aside from the politics of who gives a fuck?

Anything other than condemnation of this narrow-minded, mean-spirited culture is just pathetic reverse snobbery, claiming the tabloids as some kind of expression of working class culture, which is presumptuous, wrong and insulting - in fact, just the kind of drivel the Sun itself would come out with. 'Dedicated to the people of Britain' my fucking arse.

Clear thinking? Is this clear thinking?

I've yet to meet someone who reads the Sun every day and is not ignorant about politics in general.

Or is it an example of those unconscious social prejudices i mentioned and that you're denying exist in the above post? When people laughed at this idiot post, you complained that people were defending sun readers in a way they wouldn't defend mail readers - past caring and louis had to point out to you that they weren't in the business of defending anyone but debunking and laughing at such generalisations when applied across the board.

An as if, it's a matter of 'defending' readers rather than having a socially useful approach, one that doesn't write off millions of people due to your misunderstanding of what their cultural habits mean. What sort of useless politics starts from that position. To Maynooth with you!

 

[Divisive Cotton]

fuck him, and hugh grant, theyre jumping up and down all over this for an agenda which has nothing to do with millies phone being hacked - they want the millions that comes with fame but not the downside

the type of regulation/legislation they want would neuter the press, which is what they want, and people are falling for it, ironically, because they are celebrities and critical thinking has gone out of the window

I watched both interviews and that's not what either of them have been arguing at all. I like this patronising swipe: "critical thinking has gone out of the window"

 

[smokedout]

I watched both interviews and that's not what either of them have been arguing at all. I like this patronising swipe: "critical thinking has gone out of the window"

there were arguing for ofcom style regulation of the press, they both supported nazi mosley's recent attempts to gag the press in the european courts - they want rich men to be able to do as they please with no comeback, because, in grant's words, rich men are 'naturally naughty'

 

[Divisive Cotton]

So you don't want more regulation of the press?

 

[ymu]

Fuckin' hell, Toynbee has fallen hard for Miliband. She might as well have gone the whole hog and cast him as Harry Potter to Murdoch's Voldemort in this piece.

 

[spartacus mills]

He looks a bit worse for wear in that , maybe Steve Coogan punched him in the Green Room after newsnight

I think pub landlord and ex-hack, McMullen, probably always looks the worse for wear...

 

[goldenecitrone]

Fuckin' hell, Toynbee has fallen hard for Miliband. She might as well have gone the whole hog and cast him as Harry Potter to Murdoch's Voldemort in this piece.

Cameron out, Miliband in. Journos are sensing that Cameron is on the way out. Whatever Ed's faults, he's surely a million times better than a Murdoch-whipped Cameron.