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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

That goes against some quite clear advice I've had from professionals in this space. Have you got a link? Perhaps the transaction had got far enough for Ofcom to be notified and was then cancelled.

I would need to go digging around, too knackered to do that now - the ironic thing was the stations concerned ended-up in the hands of another company (TotalStar) that over the last year proved themselves not fit for purpose anyway, for example and amongst a long list of OFCOM complaints, getting caught out illegally increasing the output from the Minehead transmitter from 4kw to a whacking 30Kw! :facepalm:
 
getting caught out illegally increasing the output from the Minehead transmitter from 4kw to a whacking 30Kw! :facepalm:

That doesn't sound like a serious enough offence to count under "fit and proper" rules. It really has to be a criminal offence. As I understand it. I'm no more a lawyer than the drunken Spartist is, of course.
 
sixty nine pages....and counting


Morale of the story is don't use mobile phones!!!!

One of the morals (note correct spelling, please) of the story is that payback is a bitch, something the Murdoch family is just now finding out. Your claim that the moral is "don't use mobile phones" is asinine. Even if mobile phones didn't exist, the hackers could have/may well have fond ways into e-mail and into land-line voice-mail.
 
Will Self: "what goes around comes around". Buffoon.

Justine Roberts: "we all go online and look at people's waistbands". Do we?
 
I can't understand why everyone feels so sorry for the News of the World employees who've been sacked, they can go and claim those hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in benefits that they've been telling everyone about for the last 10 years.

As usual, you're a day late and a dollar short.
 
I'm confused. In:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/08/david-cameron-decision-andy-coulson

it says:

"At a Downing Street press conference, Cameron's judgment came under repeated challenge as he was asked to explain why he had taken Coulson into Downing Street after the general election despite strong reports suggesting Coulson had overseen, or tolerated, a culture of hacking while editor of the News of the World.

In the most difficult press conference of his premiership, Cameron said he had been given no "actionable information", and said he accepted Coulson's assurances that he knew nothing of phone hacking during his editorship between 2003 and 2007.

...

Admitting he will be personally judged for his decision to hire Coulson, Cameron said: "I decided to give him a second chance but the second chance didn't work. The decision to hire him was mine and mine alone."

So Coulson denied doing anything wrong and Cameron accepted this as being true but at the same time was 'giving him a second chance'? Giving him a second chance suggests that Cameron did indeed know Coulson was aware of the hacking but hired him anyway doesn't it?
 
I'm confused. In:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/08/david-cameron-decision-andy-coulson

it says:



So Coulson denied doing anything wrong and Cameron accepted this as being true but at the same time was 'giving him a second chance'? Giving him a second chance suggests that Cameron did indeed know Coulson was aware of the hacking but hired him anyway doesn't it?


He left in 2007 from the NOTW, his appointment to the tories was his one and only. They didn't catch him up to stuff than cover it up and give him another go. It was just badly explained.
 
What happened with coogan please someone?

Didn't see it but Guardian live blog has this:

10.47pm: Steve Coogan is discussing hacking on Newsnight and has said that he is glad that the News of the World - "an asylum seeker-hating newspaper" - has "gone to the wall".

Coogan, one of the alleged victims of phone-hacking affair at the News of the World, said that he had been warned in 2002 that his phone had been hacked.

But he was warned that he could not "go after" Andy Coulson - who became deputy ediutor of the newspaper in 2000 and editor in 2003 - because the journalist was "untouchable".

Coogan credited the "tenacity of the Guardian and a few individuals who had the guts to take on an intimidating organisation".

11.02pm: The fireworks have suddenly gone off on Newsnight.

Paul McMullen, who was Deputy Features editor at the News of the World from 1994 to 2001, got a few seconds into lamenting the potential impact of the hacking scandal on the role of the tabloid press in British democracy before Greg Dyke, former director general of BBC, and Steve Coogan launched a series of broadsides against him.

"I think you are a walking PR disaster for the tabloids because you don't come across in e a sympathetic way," Coogan told him

"Your come across as a risible individual."

"You are absolutely nothing to do with a decent press and a free democracy," said Dyke.

McMullen attempted to fight back, asking Coogan how many "Murdoch movies" he had appeared in, claiming that the actor had a publicist who spent their time trying to get Coogan in the press.

"You spend your time trying to get in the press. How many Murdoch movies have you been in? You take five million quid a move and then you bleet on."

Angered by McMullen's assertion that he was a journalist, Coogan told him: "You're not a journalist. You know you are not."
 
It's not my fault. Is it yours tankus? Can you tell me how? What is the mechanism of our responsibility.

Well I think it is a reflection on our society and I liked Selfs point that because we all think we can be a celeb we feel at liberty to tear any down. Coogan shut up a bit when the hack said he was a coke sniffing adulterer lol his face. Personally I think it is particular to this country to be obsessed with sexual infidelity.
 
That doesn't sound like a serious enough offence to count under "fit and proper" rules. It really has to be a criminal offence. As I understand it. I'm no more a lawyer than the drunken Spartist is, of course.

That doesn't relate to the company that was refused permission to take over those stations, IIRC that company, or it's directors, had been involved in dodgy financial dealings, but no one had been charged or convicted of any criminal offence, yet OFCOM still stopped the take-over.
 
Well I think it is a reflection on our society and I liked Selfs point that because we all think we can be a celeb we feel at liberty to tear any down. Coogan shut up a bit when the hack said he was a coke sniffing adulterer lol his face. Personally I think it is particular to this country to be obsessed with sexual infidelity.

The BNP are a reflection on our society - it means and says nothing to repeat it. And no, we don't all feel that - do you? That's more a reflection of selfs last 20 years.
 
Fair enough. Plenty of people outside the 'middle class' (whatever that is) have choices. I just object to an overly simplistic approach. 'Hair-shirt leftism', if you like, where the one lecturing others has a shirt made from angora goatskin and those being lectured have ones made of cat's tongue. Or some better analogy.

I accept that this isn't necessarily the view being pushed by anyone here.

Got this one wrong, didn't you?
 
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