marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Clive Goodman currently works for them so will presumably be in relation to his arrest?!
he got another tabloid job after serving time for what he did in a previous tabloid job?
Clive Goodman currently works for them so will presumably be in relation to his arrest?!
I'm not saying anything of the sort. I'm asking a civil question.
The Sun 'walk out' lasted half an hour, Roadie.
he got another tabloid job after serving time for what he did in a previous tabloid job?
This makes massive sense. Murdoch keeps emphasising how they voluntarily handed over documents which criminalise a number of their staff, and no one has contradicted the 'voluntary' bit, so it had to be just the ships they were scuttling whilst the main fleet was hidden.
He probably got a fuckin pay rise with it, too!
Anyway, that's not what this is. Even a month without a Sunday title will hurt NI enormously. Politicians might start to learn to say things without their permission. Their power will start to evaporate very quickly, and it won't be easy to get back.
This makes massive sense. Murdoch keeps emphasising how they voluntarily handed over documents which criminalise a number of their staff, and no one has contradicted the 'voluntary' bit, so it had to be just the ships they were scuttling whilst the main fleet was hidden.
On other stuff ... the power that Murdoch gets from his print media is not mind control of the reasdership, it is the power to build or destroy reputations. It is not the direct implantation of bogus ideas but the unnoticeable drip drip drip of advertising that allows him to threaten, cajole and bribe his way to hoilding more power over those that run our lives than the Prime Minister has, because every PM since Thatcher has been in thrall to or in fear of him.
That's over now. His power has evaporated with the credibility of his methods. The scumminess, the ever-widening time-frame (we have 1987 to 2010ish now), James Murdoch in the frame for approving hush money (possibly in a criminal way).
The worms have turned. He is over. It is entirely reasonable to say that News International should be barred from operating on British soil or owning British media. That should be the next aim. Cameron will fall with his crutches, and then we can take out the Met and the Mail.
and he'll get another new job and pay rise after he serves more time for this one .
Also, it's fucking rich of anyone working for News International to play the victim "look what you have done" card now. A) It's their own fucking management who culled their jobs, not us. B) chances are the majority of current NOTW staff will either get taken on by the successor paper, or at least get a good payout, and C) good staff should hopefully find a new job quickly enough
Does anyone know about the private cases being made by the hacked? Some have settled out of court, but not all have. Yet by the looks of it, anyone who has had a story about them in NOTW (not to mention other titles) was hacked. According to a NOTW unnamed source, if you filed a story without phone messages you'd get asked 'where are the messages?' The police are sitting on a huge list.
Is it the case that the first private case has yet to go through the courts? If it goes through and wins and a price is set for damages, does that open the door for every other person who's been hacked to sue? That's thousands of people and would cost a fortune - even for Murdoch.
this has to impact on the 'fit and proper' test that OFCOM are due to announce - which i posted about earlier.
it's not very 'fit and proper' for executives at an organisation to attempt to subvert investigations in this fashion... plus all the other shit.
Notice of Consultation on the proposed acquisition by News Corporation of up to 60.9% Of BSkyB Group PLC (revised undertakings in lieu) – 30 June 2011
News International (NI) have just announced the closure of the largest circulation English language newspaper in the world. NI have only owned this paper for a tiny fraction of its 168 year history. There is no longer even a business case for allowing this incompetent and corrupt organisation to take over any more British media, and surely now a very strong case for barring them from any media ownership in this country at all.
This is a democracy. It is inconceivable that we would allow an organisation that has preyed on our children, our dead, our bereaved, on any innocent, private individual who found themselves unwillingly in the public eye, to continue to operate here.
Please, have the courage shown by so many others in standing up to this vile, bullying corporation:
1. stop the BSkyB deal
2. force the sale of all British media currently owned by News International
Companies that break British law are not welcome here. There is no reason to deport criminal people but not criminal companies, and it would be obscene if any such argument were made. This is a democracy, and the will of the people must be be obeyed. No more News International assets on British soil. They have had too many chances, there can be no more.
No to the BSkyB acquisition and no to News International.
ymu
Intersting- I'd noticed that the Daily Star had been less then comprehensive in its coverage. I'm sure all the tabloids have been doing the same sort of shite, although praps not on the industrial scale that the NOTW was.
Ofcom to carry out a 'fit and proper persons' test - will take some time cos of court cases but if it finds agasint News International he would have to sell his BSkyB shares. Hes fucked I tell ya - lots of people are out to get him.
He could well die having watched his empire wither to away to nowt.
Playing the victim is India Knight's forte. She's made a sub-Polly Filla career out of "poor little me" columns. She wouldn't know real journalism if it gave her a rim-job.
portillo has been positioning himself for years
Yeah. I posted my contribution to the consultation exercise earlier. Might as well stick it up again, cos that's exactly the argument I made.
Server down.
YAY if this is true, no Sun tomorrow?
do we have any reason for having any faith in ofcom btw?
Evidence?
!@brianwhelanhack: I was off buying lunch but police have confirmed to Yahoo! they are raiding the Daily Star.