Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Gingerman]

Oh yes! C/o Harpy Marx @Twitter (thankx), proof of Brook's true nature: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/politics/article-23968124-some-mps-suspected-a-year-ago-but-nobody-wouldve-believed-it.do

""She came up to me and said, 'Oh, Mr Bryant, it's after dark - shouldn't you be on Clapham Common?"

 

[LLETSA]

The case of the NOTW is slightly different however. First because Murdochs entire wapping operation was built on the back of union busting. The entire previous staff of several thousand were fired for going on strike and its wapping staff bussed in in an operation of mass scabbing. This is the conditions that the present NOTW were and are quite happy to operate under until now.
Second, the staff of the NOTW have proven themselves to be my enemies and the enemies of the most vulnerable in society for decades. They have been quite happy to spew the most vicious anti working class, anti union, racist, homophobic, sexist and pro war propaganda without a word of protest for decades. They happily went along with attacking single parents, the unemployed, strikers, foreigners, gay people, Muslims and quite happily dished out a diet of meaningless pap and hypocritical semi pornographic propaganda worthy of Orwell, all dressed up in the language of self righteousness and moral superiority for decades without complaint. So forgive me if I find it hard to find too much sympathy for them now they are being served up with just a taste of what they have helped to dish out for years. Fuck em frankly I don't really care about the fate of these 200 scabs and inheritors of the working conditions created by scabs. They chose to work for this poisonous rag and now they are tasting a bit of the poison and I really don't care.

You may be right, but I was talking about working for corporations generally.

 

[stethoscope]

Well of course that was shocking and outrageous! But does that mean it's okay for the current people to be shafted?

I must have missed your concern on the public sector workers/pensions thread.

 

[DexterTCN]

He could have a heart attack...his empire burning around him.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

and dylans point about the wapping workers certainly adds some weight to the argument as to why people may be celebrating tbf.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The only option I had when I worked in an arms factory was to work there or sign on. I wanted to earn my own living.

Manchester in 1981 wasn't exactly overflowing with choices in these matters.

And I'm not judging you for it. Your choices were severely limited. In a situation where you have greater choices - which, for instance, any journalist working for a national tabloid does - perhaps I would judge you more harshly.

I think the people on the marches judging you were wrong, btw. I just don't think the comparison with NOTW journalists is valid. Their cleaners, delivery men, etc, yes. But not their journos. If you do have choices, making the morally correct one isn't some kind of luxury at all. It's a responsibility. A duty, even.

 

[marty21]

The case of the NOTW is slightly different however. First because Murdochs entire wapping operation was built on the back of union busting. The entire previous staff of several thousand were fired for going on strike and its wapping staff bussed in in an operation of mass scabbing. This is the conditions that the present NOTW were and are quite happy to operate under until now.
Second, the staff of the NOTW have proven themselves to be my enemies and the enemies of the most vulnerable in society for decades. They have been quite happy to spew the most vicious anti working class, anti union, racist, homophobic, sexist and pro war propaganda without a word of protest for decades. They happily went along with attacking single parents, the unemployed, strikers, foreigners, gay people, Muslims and quite happily dished out a diet of meaningless pap and hypocritical semi pornographic propaganda worthy of Orwell, all dressed up in the language of self righteousness and moral superiority for decades without complaint. So forgive me if I find it hard to find too much sympathy for them now they are being served up with just a taste of what they have helped to dish out for years. Fuck em frankly I don't really care about the fate of these 200 scabs and inheritors of the working conditions created by scabs. They chose to work for this poisonous rag and now they are tasting a bit of the poison and I really don't care.

I agree.

 

[agricola]

He could have a heart attack...his empire burning around him.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

""She came up to me and said, 'Oh, Mr Bryant, it's after dark - shouldn't you be on Clapham Common?"

Her (then) husband's reply to her was class

 

[pk]

Why? What are the rules of being allowed to post here?

The only rule is that every other poster gets to point at you and laugh.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I must have missed your concern on the public sector workers/pensions thread.

Yes, you must have. Just because I don't agree with the strike doesn't mean I'm not concerned about ordinary workers. Especially workers who get shafted because of the management's actions.

 

[yardbird]

Dylans, I'm sure you're aware that sometime if you want to work, you have to work for companies that you don't totally agree with.
All the cleaners, tea ladies, maintenance people, clerical workers, etc. that worked for the NOTW are being tarred by you as deserving their fate.

I have walked from a job for ethical reasons. I would never have started it had I known what I discovered later.
Would you have been happy being Albert Pierrepoint's cleaner??

 

[WWWeed]

He could have a heart attack...his empire burning around him.

Its not burning just yet. Soon hopefully!

 

[Refused as fuck]

Yes, you must have. Just because I don't agree with the strike doesn't mean I'm not concerned about ordinary workers. Especially workers who get shafted because of the management's actions.

Tell me, did you hear a farting noise in your brain when you finished typing this?

 

[Gingerman]

Her (then) husband's reply to her was class

Always liked Ross,sems like a decent bloke,too good for her

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I have walked from a job for ethical reasons. I would never have started it had I known what I discovered later.
Would you have been happy being Albert Pierrepoint's cleaner??

00- -

Happy ? No. But in those days I guess you either did a job you didn't like or you starved.

 

[Gingerman]

Be nice if Murdoch took a sailing trip,like the one Bob Maxwell took in Nov 1991

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Always liked Ross,sems like a decent bloke,too good for her

True say, innit?

 

[rorymac]

Shame Moron cant be dragged into this scandal.

He defo ought to be !!

 

[Bakunin]

Would you have been happy being Albert Pierrepoint's cleaner??

Nah, I heard he was a pretty unfriendly character who had trouble keeping friends.

Always in the habit of dropping people wherever he went.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

He defo ought to be !!

the thing that worries me surely, is whether you're in in this mess rory.

the truth will out. have no doubt.

word.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

The Moron's getting a kicking on Twitter:

#bbcqt see #PiersMorgan couldn't restrain himself. His hypocrisy is amazing, given his track record in the red tops #viglen #iraqiprisoners.

 

[weltweit]

Weltweit, is that you?

I am here!! never fear !!

Fresh from watching a rather good question time, Hugh Grant did well, amusing that Douglas Alexander had just been to a Murdock party in the last week and Jon Gaunt was surprisingly good I thought.

Then I watched a bit of This Week, in which I was a little surprised to see Max Clifford standing up for Rebeka Brooks, against all criticism his position is that she did not know what was going on. Well we know she knew about the bribes being paid to members of the police, because she admitted such in public, but Max stuck to his guns that she did not know of the hacking, about which she had settled with him and paid him compensation.

Quite an interesting bit of TV viewing for the time being.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

From the Torygraph (sorry) - Scottish Plod to open a file on Coulson for suspected perjury? - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8623090/Phone-hacking-Andy-Coulson-facing-perjury-investigation-over-Tommy-Sheridan-evidence.html

 

[little_legs]

Always liked Ross,sems like a decent bloke,too good for her

Think the Ultimate Force was an allegory for his domestic life?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

I am here!! never fear !!

Fresh from watching a rather good question time, Hugh Grant did well, amusing that Douglas Alexander had just been to a Murdock party in the last week and Jon Gaunt was surprisingly good I thought.

Then I watched a bit of This Week, in which I was a little surprised to see Max Clifford standing up for Rebeka Brooks, against all criticism his position is that she did not know what was going on. Well we know she knew about the bribes being paid to members of the police, because she admitted such in public, but Max stuck to his guns that she did not know of the hacking, about which she had settled with him and paid him compensation.

Quite an interesting bit of TV viewing for the time being.

maybe, just maybe, rebeka is offering some kind of incentive to max to do that?!

it does take place you know? your second paragraph was what alistair campbell tweeted mostly

 

[MellySingsDoom]

George Michael on Twitter related a tale of Brooks coming round to his house for a party (she was uninvited by him) and telling him that much of the dirt the Digger Corp printed on him came from bought-off Plod. She didn't leave afterwards. Needless to say George sees recent events as "a great day". Fair play on the feller

 

[yardbird]

^^Did she share one of George's spliffs I wonder

 

[Gingerman]

I am here!! never fear !!

Fresh from watching a rather good question time, Hugh Grant did well, amusing that Douglas Alexander had just been to a Murdock party in the last week and Jon Gaunt was surprisingly good I thought.

Gaunt seemed to think you make a great point by shouting,he was his usual odious self tonight.

 

[rorymac]

the thing that worries me surely, is whether you're in in this mess rory.

the truth will out. have no doubt.

word.

No chance paulie .. but just imagine you were in contact with someone whose phone was being hacked and you had a huge row with them via text/answer phone whatever. Then that person was murdered .. given that the police are a bit lacking your messages would be so damning the case would be formed around them and you wouldn't stand a chance.

You'd be destroyed as a character in the tabloids and go inside for something you didn't do.

That's a shocking but impossible thing not to imagine !!

That poor girl that was murdered in Bristol last xmas .. why did the police allow the teacher to be destroyed in the papers when it was the bloke living in the same house as her that admitted it subsequently.

Disgusting !