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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

Gingerman said:
Did'nt PE expose the Mirror share scandal involving Moron? I remember when he appeared on HIGNFU he tried to best Hislop and ended up having his arse handed to him on a plate.As Mirror editor he did his best to dig up any sort of dirt against Hislop without much success.
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Tis true indeed. If I recall correctly, the Moron tried to have a go at Clive Anderson (a trained and much-practiced barrister before his comedy days), who also sent Moron packing. Moron actually threatened to have Anderson tailed and "exposed" too - never a great idea to threaten someone well versed in the law, eh Piers?

e2a: Marina Hyde and the Moron's affair lasted over 4 years, and it was her "inappropriate" e-mails to him whilst at The Sun that got her the boot from News Int.
 
weltweit said:
Why are your guns out so much for Piers Morgan?

Do you have reasons, or is it just tall poppy syndrome?

I have no gripe with him I think at least... Mind you I don't read the mirror, never have.
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Because he's a wrongun .. fuck the Daily Mirror also .. another scummy fucking rag !
 
This thread's way of saying people are posting the same thing over and over without paying any attention to each, streathamite.
 
I see from Peston's 'analysis' on the BBC website today that Southern Investigations invoices the BBC has seen from the late 1990s (I wonder how, for starters) show that they were mostly being sent to Alex Marunchak, and that roughly £67,000 was spent over two years - which Peston equates to approximately 2 pieces of work a week. Now this is for the Mirror, rather than NOTW, but the implication was that Marunchak commissioned the work.

I commission work from people as part of my job, and it's not my name on the invoice, even though I commission it. The implicit assumption that it must have been Marunchak who commissioned the work just on the strength of his name on the invoices, is to my mind a bit flawed. If there's other evidence to point to him, fine, but that's not mentioned in the article.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14386696
 
equationgirl said:
I see from Peston's 'analysis' on the BBC website today that Southern Investigations invoices the BBC has seen from the late 1990s (I wonder how, for starters) show that they were mostly being sent to Alex Marunchak, and that roughly £67,000 was spent over two years - which Peston equates to approximately 2 pieces of work a week. Now this is for the Mirror, rather than NOTW, but the implication was that Marunchak commissioned the work.

I commission work from people as part of my job, and it's not my name on the invoice, even though I commission it. The implicit assumption that it must have been Marunchak who commissioned the work just on the strength of his name on the invoices, is to my mind a bit flawed. If there's other evidence to point to him, fine, but that's not mentioned in the article.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14386696
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sure, but this is different. this is invoices addressed to a tabloid editor, from a PI, charging for getting info so sensitive and personal that it would at least raise the question as to how they got that. it strikes me that "ask no questions and look the other way" is a questionable tactic in those circs.
 
Silly season or not, still it giveth:

The FBI is widening its investigation of News Corporation's activities within the US to look at whether alleged computer hacking by one of its subsidiaries was an isolated case or part of a "larger pattern of behaviour", Time magazine is reporting.

Time suggests that the FBI inquiry has been extended from a relatively narrow look at alleged malpractices by News Corp in America into a more general investigation of whether the company used possibly illegal strong-arm tactics to browbeat rival firms.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/04/fbi-news-corp-investigation
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:D
 
'Street Of Shame' from Private Eye #1294:

SMOKE AND MIRRORS

"For the record, at my time at the Mirror and the News of the World I have never hacked a phone, told anybody to hack a phone, or published any stories based on the hacking of a phone," declared Piers Moron last week.

He was referring to MP Louise Mensch’s spectacular cock-up when she claimed at the culture select committee hearing that he had ’fessed up in his book The Insider to having obtained the Sven ’n’ Ulrika scoop credited to the 3am girls (Eyes passim) from phone hacking. His actual literary account of the scoop’s provenance featured in the last Eye, which Mensch should perhaps have purchased: to grant Moron the moral high ground in any argument is quite a spectacular achievement.

The paper’s “Sven Sational!” double-page spread of Friday 19 April 2002 contains no reference to phone messages at all: it speaks merely of “quiet tête-à-têtes” between the pair (it was left to the News of the World two days later to give details of the couple’s “sexy phone chats in Swedish”). But the following Tuesday’s Mirror did reveal that “Sven Goran Eriksson told new love Ulrika Jonsson in an emotional phone call yesterday he had decided to put his personal life on hold until after the World Cup… He told Ulrika, 34: ‘I still love you, but please give me time – my priority is to sort out the finals.”

Eyes and ears
Many staff were convinced at the time that the Mirror had simply swiped the Screws’s scoop, several weeks in the planning – but that can hardly be the case, because it would mean the story may well, after all, have been “based on the hacking of a phone”. And Moron is an honourable man. Admittedly, as his desperation increased last week, he was pointing his Twitter followers in the direction of a story in Eye 1053, which noted: “Internal investigations failed to establish whether the Mirror was tipped off by a disgruntled Screws hack or whether the story was leaked by Ulrika’s publicity agent, Melanie Cantor, in return for more ‘sympathetic’ coverage.” But he has yet to make reference to our subsequent stories pointing out that Eriksson himself has requested that Scotland Yard tell him if his mobile phone details appear in Glenn Mulcaire’s notebooks (Eye 1283), that Moron told colleagues “you should hear the tape” of phone messages from Paul McCartney to Heather Mills (Eye 1281) or that “Trinity Mirror journalists, like those on other tabloids, certainly made great use of private detectives” (Eye 1287).

Nor has he directly addressed the fact, dug up by bloggers last week, that he wrote in his Mail on Sunday column in 2009 that he had been amused to receive a voicemail from Nancy Dell’Olio because “the Daily Mirror, under my editorship, exposed Sven’s fling with Ulrika Jonsson after learning of a similar message left by the then England manager on her phone. I can only hope and pray the gutter press (ha ha) aren't hacking into my mobile now.”

BT-baiting
He may also hope and pray that no one who attended it still remembers a lunch held in September 2002 in a private room at the swanky new Four Seasons Hotel in Canary Wharf, just by the offices of the Daily Mirror. The occasion was one of the monthly bunfights hosted for Moron by convivial Trinity Mirror chairman Sir Victor Blank. The dozen or so guests at this one included Ulrika Jonsson, Jeremy Paxman and the then chief executive of BT, Ben Verwaayen.

Moron’s feeble attempts to master a Scandinavian accent in front of Jonsson – he was trying to wind her up by mimicking conversations with Eriksson – were received with embarrassed titters. Then he started to hector Verwaayen, roaring that BT “should start providing better security for pin numbers for mobile phones! You should tell your customers to go and change them!”

At which point one might have expected the Trinity Mirror chairman to ask how his editor seemed to know the intimate details of Jonsson and Eriksson’s phone calls. But nothing was heard from the man who had so famously protected Moron in the “City Slickers” scandal, ignoring chief executive Philip Graf’s pleas to have him fired.

Having mocked Ulrika and hectored Verwaayen, Moron then launched into his party piece – a re-enactment of Heather Mills arguing on the phone with Paul McCartney and the ex-Beatle winning her round by singing “We Can Work it Out”.

Whispering grass
“Sometimes reporters made what was known as blagging phone calls,” admitted former Mirror hack Jessica Callan of her time at the paper in her 2007 book Wicked Whispers. “This was when they rang a doctor/hospital/credit card company/estate agent/hotel to obtain information by pretending to be a celeb or an aide or family member of the star. Either a reporter would do it themselves or they’d pay a private detective who was used to this line of work to do it.”

Blagging medical or financial records is, of course, illegal. Moron – who employed Callan in 2000 – would no doubt point out that there is a legal defence when such subterfuge is in the public interest. Which it presumably always was in Callan’s job – after all, she headed the 3am girls team of showbiz gossip columnists.

A numbers game
On the orders of her line manager Kevin O’Sullivan (now TV reviewer on the Sunday Mirror), Callan obtained DJ Chris Moyles’s home phone number so they could print it in the paper. “Kevin announced to us, ‘I want someone to get me Lard Boy’s home phone number.’ With the help of an agency I used to track down information on people, I soon got hold of Chris Moyles’s home number and emailed it to Kevin … As Kevin had predicted, Moylesy had been inundated at home with calls from our readers taking the piss out of him. He’d taken the phone off the hook and had arranged for his number to be changed. ‘You just tell Moyles,’ Kevin snapped down the phone to the Radio 1 PR, ‘if he says one more thing about the girls, then we’ll print his parents’ home phone number.’”

The rest of the time, of course, the 3am column specialised in hot showbiz scoops such as this one from February 2004: “Girls Aloud’s Sarah Harding has a rival for her boyfriend Mikey Green from Phixx – in the shape of Keira Knightley… Keira, 18, made a beeline for Mikey – who’s been dating Sarah for just over a year – and they swapped phone numbers. We can’t imagine Sarah will be pleased when she learns that Keira – who recently dated Oscar-winning star of The Pianist, Adrien Brody – has already left a message on Mikey’s phone.”
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Emerging today that the Guardian's David Leigh hacked voicemails and may have taught journalism students how to hack voicemails. Oops.
 
lazyhack said:
Emerging today that the Guardian's David Leigh hacked voicemails and may have taught journalism students how to hack voicemails. Oops.
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Well, it's a lot less exciting having read the details than the likes of John Higginson were suggesting yesterday. Even Paul Staines had trouble making it sound interesting (but then he got scooped by some Metro hack who used the revolutionary technique of using a search engine to discover the post-Goodman conviction article on the Guardian's own website).
 
Streathamite said:
still damn good to read
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You should really splash out £1.50 for your own copy, if you think so.

Dave, if its true he 'taught' students to hack voicemails and the two students come forward then you have to admit this will be pretty fucking funny, regardless of Leigh being one of the rebel alliance or whatever it is people think the Guardian are.
 
lazyhack said:
Emerging today that the Guardian's David Leigh hacked voicemails and may have taught journalism students how to hack voicemails. Oops.
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to me, that seems like he actually did have a fairly strong public interest defence?:confused:
I mean, it was in the name of exposing corruption in the oil business, not finding out who ulrikkka/sienna/prescott was shagging.
have I misread this?
(e2a; no, I'm no blind uncritical grauniad fan, i rarely buy it
 
lazyhack said:
...you have to admit this will be pretty fucking funny, regardless of Leigh being one of the rebel alliance or whatever it is people think the Guardian are.
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Not as 'funny' as Rusbridger quashing - at the behest of Hayman - the original investigation into links between corrupt media managers and corrupt police officers that is the meat and marrow of this whole thing.
 
Some interesting stuff on this Southend United fans forum thread:

http://www.weststandviews.com/SMF/chit-chat-and-more/news-of-the-world/

Can anyone identify 'anotheroldimpsfan'/'OIF'? Third-in-command at Today at its closure, with time served at the Sun and Guardian as well as elsewhere in 50 year career?

anotheroldimpsfan a.k.a. OIF
  • ????-1965 Reporter, Southend Standard
  • 1965-1972 Reporter, Press Association ("the youngest ever hired in their history")/casual shifts, Daily Express
  • 1972-1991 Various, The Sun
  • 1991-1995 Assistant editor (news), Today
  • 1995-2000 Staff reporter (East Anglia), The Guardian
  • 2000-xxxx Set up own news agency specialising in politics
  • 2000-xxxx Freelance, The Guardian

(Dates approximate as his various posts don't always tally with regards details.)

The behind-locked-door bollocking anecdote rings a bell.
 
Oh this is interesting ...

Mr Coulson, David Cameron's media chief, who resigned in January as the phone-hacking scandal developed, was scrutinised by an experienced investigator with strong links to both the Security Services and to the newspaper group that owned the News of the World, which Mr Coulson had previously edited.
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(my emphasis)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tor-linked-to-news-international-2333257.html

I've wondered if the corrupt collusion between the cops, the political right and the Murdoch press also extended to the security services ...

It certainly seems to have been the case with the far-right, the gutter press and the secret police in Italy for example, so I think it's worth keeping an eye on this aspect.
 
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