Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Streathamite]

Mulcaire, he's got no angles left really. He's got to shit on his employers because unless he can hand off some of the guilt to them, he's looking at a world of fucked-overness.

damn right - It's clear from his statements that he's not been paid an absolute fortune to take the whole rap (as I expected NI to try), so his ONLY defence is "I voz only obeyink orders" and to implicate everyone he knows. same goes for Whittamore and Rees.
And the key thing is; sooner or later SOMEONE - be it leveson, a commons committee, or a future trial judge - has to decide where the buck stopped i.e. who DID know and din't stop the hacking, bribery etc. So far, all the murdochs, Coulson, Brooks and Myler have all vehemently denied any knowledge of anythiong other than the original royal hack. It's like the 6 wise monkeys
It's also totally non-credible as a denial. There's a potential 12,000 hacks here; that's just not realistic, or reasonable.
Nor is 'unkknowingness' compatible with signing off hefty payments to the 3 (dept editor at least) PIs, let alone the six-figure damages checks. Especially when you consider that NI are famous for running a tight financial ship

 

[butchersapron]

He can take outside money (lots in this mums account) and fuck off. However, he's worth more than that right now.

Who is now paying his legal fees?

 

[Pickman's model]

He can take outside money (lots in this mums account) and fuck off. However, he's worth more than that right now.

Who is now paying his legal fees?

apparently it's still ni, his solicitors were in the news the other day saying that they hadn't heard from ni that the tap had been turned off but they'd fight it if it was because ni had agreed to indemnify mulcaire's legal costs some time ago.

 

[equationgirl]

We won't have to wait long - legal bills often get sent out at month's end, and I bet NI won't pay this lot...they can't, not after JM said in front of parliament that they wouldn't, and not in the current climate.

 

[ymu]

Murdoch R did add that it depended on contractual obligations. I think they can wriggle out quite easily, but at the cost of even more bad publicity, so it's a sort of win-win. They'll get them in the dock in the end.

Murdoch's biographer has said that some News Corp execs aren't wondering if there'll still be Murdochs at News Corp next year, they're wondering if Murdoch will be behind bars.

And they should have a better inkling than most. So that's nice.

 

[treelover]

'http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/murdoch_s_5k_a_day_for_blunkett_1_3609778'


Not sure if this has been posted on megathread, but apparently Blunkett was on the payroll of NI on a 'social responsibility' project and paid 25,000 for the work...

oh, and 33,000 from the Mail...

 

[Pickman's model]

'http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/murdoch_s_5k_a_day_for_blunkett_1_3609778'


Not sure if this has been posted on megathread, but apparently Blunkett was on the payroll of NI on a 'social responsibility' project and paid 25,000 for the work...

oh, and 33,000 from the Mail...

as someone who's posted here for nigh on ten years i am surprised you're having trouble posting links: http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/murdoch_s_5k_a_day_for_blunkett_1_3609778

 

[WWWeed]

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[Streathamite]

The PCC will be an easy casualty in this, hardly worth bothering about but certainly worth it if there's a slight chance they'll grow some balls. They're as bad as the IPCC without a doubt.

They are utterly useless, every bit as bad as the IPCC, and if there is one good thing to come from this, it's real, worthwhile press regulatory and police watchdog regimes.

 

[Streathamite]

So, have we had thew news about NI's former legal officer coming out to support Crone and Myler's account of James Murdoch's lies?

Crone and Myler are interesting, because their statement drops Murdoch J in it, but they're also contradicting their own testimony to the DCMS a couple of years ago. Looks like they're angry enough to drop themselves in it if it means getting the Murdoch's back. Which is nice.

Mulcaire will have to spill. The court cases he is fighting are appeals against judgements forcing him to name the people he dealt with at NI. No legal fees means he can't fight that even if he wanted to any more. He looks like he's ready to blow the lid off any moment.

It's all good.

O)h, it's all unfolding beautifully....We;'ve got A WHOLE YEAR of this to go!

 

[Streathamite]

Who is now paying his legal fees?

His lawyers insist NI should, and by all accounts they'll take this to court; also, Mulcaire is still fighting a high court order compelling him to, well, spill all on his paymasters. Which, IMO, puts mulcaire in an astonishingly strong position. He's so far the only person who we can be sure knows where all the bodies are buried.

 

[equationgirl]

To be fair, it depends what the causes for termination are, within the contract, and what happens in case of termination. Without seeing the terms of the contract itself (how I'd love to) it's difficult to see how this is going to end. Certainly, Mulcaire's lawyers are keen to hold NI to the terms of the original agreement, and I think would have no problems suing NI for breach of contract if NI broke the agreement.

In terms of bodies buried etc, it does seem to be an exceedingly silly thing to do.

 

[London_Calling]

They can breach - and seemingly have, but they'll still have to pay in the end, plus costs and plus an extra kick in the bollocks for being..... unpleasant.

It was typical NI bullshit from the first ("immediate effect").

 

[equationgirl]

Oh I agree, contracts are breached all the time, it just makes JM's evidence seem even more untrustworthy.

Serve them right if the appeal is lost and the names of NI journalists are released anyway.

 

[two sheds]

Oooh tut.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/01/phone-hacking-news-international-emails

The technology firm HCL has told the home affairs select committee it was aware of the deletion of hundreds of thousands of emails at the request of News International between April 2010 and July 2011, but said it did not know of anything untoward behind the requests to delete them.

So over this last year. I wonder who authorised that?

 

[elbows]

Oooh tut.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/01/phone-hacking-news-international-emails



So over this last year. I wonder who authorised that?

Some of it does sound like the sort of thing you'd do for non-dodgy IT reasons, to try to prop up a system thats wobbling. 200000 messages stuck in an outbox is the most striking example!

 

[Badgers]

Slightly off topic but amusing

Data of Sun website users stolen

 

[DaveCinzano]

See also:

https://twitter.com/#!/batteye

Via @BrianWhelanHack

 

[paolo]

Some of it does sound like the sort of thing you'd do for non-dodgy IT reasons, to try to prop up a system thats wobbling. 200000 messages stuck in an outbox is the most striking example!

Yep. Sounds like they're running Exchange

 

[Badgers]

Miss Scotland heh

 

[Kanda]

Some of it does sound like the sort of thing you'd do for non-dodgy IT reasons, to try to prop up a system thats wobbling. 200000 messages stuck in an outbox is the most striking example!

Stuck? It was reported as NDR's.

 

[pk]

Slightly off topic but amusing

Data of Sun website users stolen

Oh dear LOL!

 

[Santino]

And we're back:

A key new arrest has been made in the ongoing phone-hacking scandal.

The unnamed man apparently did not know he was going to be taken into custody when he arrived by appointment at a police station in London at 11am on Tuesday to answer questions about the phone-hacking scandal.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/02/phone-hacking-scandal-new-arrest

 

[butchersapron]

I bet santino posts this before me:

A key new arrest has been made in the ongoing phone-hacking scandal.

The unnamed man apparently did not know he was going to be taken into custody when he arrived by appointment at a police station in London at 11am on Tuesday to answer questions about the phone-hacking scandal.

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, beaten by miles.

 

[Santino]

Beaten more soundly than an ill-prepared Indian cricket team lacking their best bowler.

 

[Badgers]

A key new arrest has been made in the ongoing phone-hacking scandal.

Time for wild speculation

 

[butchersapron]

Stuart Kuttner, former managing editor of NotW - from Guardian twitter

 

[butchersapron]

Kuttner in 2008: "It happened once at the News of the World. The reporter was fired; he went to prison. The editor resigned."

 

[DaveCinzano]

"70 year old man" according to newsdan (Daniel Sandford, BBC).