Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Paulie Tandoori]

GM tweeted that he invited Lady Buscombe to a house warming party, which she come along to and enjoyed herself for a couple of hours, including a tour of his new house.

then she went home and called the police, to complain about the noise coming from his party

 

[weltweit]

GM tweeted that he invited Lady Buscombe to a house warming party, which she come along to and enjoyed herself for a couple of hours, including a tour of his new house.

then she went home and called the police, to complain about the noise coming from his party

 

[Greebo]

Are you a Lady Buscombe fan VP?

It's to do with his username

 

[weltweit]

It's to do with his username

Oh duh .. of course - silly me

 

[London_Calling]

Operation Tuleta really should be Weeting on double-strength steroids.

If the PI reports inside three years I'll eat my neck.

 

[paolo]

did anyone notice the latest 'scalp'? Lady Buscombe, the PCC chair, is to stand down

Aye.

And Murborg might be recalled to the committee. I'd bloody love to see Watson have a second bite.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you a Lady Buscombe fan VP?

My name is ViolentPanda.

You traduced pandas.

Prepare to die.

(100 internet poyntz to anyone who can say which character in which film I paraphrased there)

 

[weltweit]

My name is ViolentPanda.

You traduced pandas.

Prepare to die.

(100 internet poyntz to anyone who can say which character in which film I paraphrased there)

But I thought it common knowledge that male pandas have extremely small genitalia such that the only successful mating position which ensures proper entry is a position which can only be described as "two juggernaughts reverse into each other"... And as this is both a difficult to achieve, and extremely unnatural sexual position not mentioned in the Karma Sutra, many panda matings are rather unsucessful ...

 

[DaveCinzano]

My name is ViolentPanda.

You traduced pandas.

Prepare to die.

(100 internet poyntz to anyone who can say which character in which film I paraphrased there)

The Princess Bride of course.

 

[gosub]

They'll also be instantly snapped up by someone, somewhere, with the exception of those who've been nicked

Suppose Siberia counts as somewhere

 

[sleaterkinney]

But I thought it common knowledge that male pandas have extremely small genitalia such that the only successful mating position which ensures proper entry is a position which can only be described as "two juggernaughts reverse into each other"... And as this is both a difficult to achieve, and extremely unnatural sexual position not mentioned in the Karma Sutra, many panda matings are rather unsucessful ...

Pandas don't have sex like that.

 

[editor]

WTF is going on with this thread? This is an important news topic. Please try and keep it remotely on topic.

 

[smokedout]

I think it's important we get this cleared up first

"The penis of an adult panda is only about 3 centimeters (1.2 inches) long,"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/09/china.panda.reut/index.html

I'm sure VP will be able to confirm or deny this

 

[editor]

I think it's important we get this cleared up first

"The penis of an adult panda is only about 3 centimeters (1.2 inches) long,"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/09/china.panda.reut/index.html

I'm sure VP will be able to confirm or deny this

For the last time of asking: take this to another thread, please. Anyone posting up any more disruptive, off topic nonsense can expect to be banned for the rest of the weekend. Your call.

 

[ymu]

So, have we had thew news about NI's former legal officer coming out to support Crone and Myler's account of James Murdoch's lies?

Crone and Myler are interesting, because their statement drops Murdoch J in it, but they're also contradicting their own testimony to the DCMS a couple of years ago. Looks like they're angry enough to drop themselves in it if it means getting the Murdoch's back. Which is nice.

Mulcaire will have to spill. The court cases he is fighting are appeals against judgements forcing him to name the people he dealt with at NI. No legal fees means he can't fight that even if he wanted to any more. He looks like he's ready to blow the lid off any moment.

It's all good.

 

[paolo]

So, have we had thew news about NI's former legal officer coming out to support Crone and Myler's account of James Murdoch's lies?

Crone and Myler are interesting, because their statement drops Murdoch J in it, but they're also contradicting their own testimony to the DCMS a couple of years ago. Looks like they're angry enough to drop themselves in it if it means getting the Murdoch's back. Which is nice.

Mulcaire will have to spill. The court cases he is fighting are appeals against judgements forcing him to name the people he dealt with at NI. No legal fees means he can't fight that even if he wanted to any more. He looks like he's ready to blow the lid off any moment.

It's all good.

Epic isn't it?

As we all sussed, originally everyone seems to have told stories that best fit their own ends. But all a house of cards because the facts won't add up under scrutiny. And now the microscope is on, it all tumbles. I'm all for the grassing if it nails the people at the top.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The Princess Bride of course.

50 poyntz, sir, as you didn't name the character.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Epic isn't it?

As we all sussed, originally everyone seems to have told stories that best fit their own ends. But all a house of cards because the facts won't add up under scrutiny. And now the microscope is on, it all tumbles. I'm all for the grassing if it nails the people at the top.

Crone and Myler have their careers (what's left of them) to worry about, so they've an "angle" to work when it comes to dangling Murdoch Jr. in the brown stuff, but Mulcaire, he's got no angles left really. He's got to shit on his employers because unless he can hand off some of the guilt to them, he's looking at a world of fucked-overness.

Whatever the various motivations, though, as ymu says, "it's all good".

 

[teqniq]

Is it just me or do Crone and Myler sound like a pair of Victorian villains?

'Dammit, we're done for, best use our insurance policy. The Crushers will be of no use this time they find themselves in a similar predicament'

 

[ymu]

It's exactly what happens when they crack a big organised crime network. Once the rats start talking, it's every rat for themselves. But News Corp is the biggest organised crime syndicate of all. Just gotta keep those dominoes tumbling.

This connects up with so much other stuff that's going on, too. Thatcher needed Murdoch to sell the viciousness and economic illiteracy that we're all paying for now. Kelner is in the frame for allowing Hari's laxness, and hatchet jobs ... and the Guardian has allowed similar (there was a Chomsky hatchet job from them a few years back) ... the BBC have been an unashamed propaganda mouthpiece for the government for decades (blatantly so since Kelly/Gilligan and New Labour's cuntery). Peston is being hammered for his part in promoting the NI agenda through this.

And that's just the UK. Uprisings in the ME and North Africa, and increasingly in Asia. And the US is there too, and was before the Murdoch scandal spread there. Several US states have had rolling demonstrations against Tea Party governors which, in population terms, are as big as the biggest demos London has ever seen. Wisconsin had 100,000 out in the capital for weeks on end in a state with just 5 million people - and when the police turned up to the occupation of the Capitol Building, it was to join the demonstrators. All this on an issue that was solely about attempts to destroy public sector unions, and nothing to do with the latest financial terrorism being inflicted by Congress.

The whole establishment smoke screen is getting thinner by the day.

 

[Pickman's model]

Thatcher needed Murdoch to sell the viciousness and economic illiteracy that we're all paying for now.

i'm not persuaded that everything there was one way, ie thatcher needed murdoch. i'd have said that relationship, as the relationships of subsequent prime ministers have been, was more mutual than begging.

 

[ymu]

i'm not persuaded that everything there was one way, ie thatcher needed murdoch. i'd have said that relationship, as the relationships of subsequent prime ministers have been, was more mutual than begging.

I'd agree that it was mutual under Thatcher - that was true of earlier PMs in the 1970s too. But it was Wapping that decisively changed the situation, and I wouldn't agree that there has been anything like the same balance since Thatcher. It's nothing to do with the myth that NI chooses the election winner - Murdoch just sniffs the air and backs the winner. It is a great deal to do with the ability to wreck or make careers, and wreck or make policy. Murdoch gets what he wants from government because they're fucking terrified of him - under Thatcher he got it because they were political soulmates.

I'm waiting to see more about the alleged war-room art Fox. If that gets raided, things could get very interesting indeed.

 

[Pickman's model]

it's going to get more interesting anyway as this spreads from ni elsewhere

 

[ymu]

Note the flame red hair engulfed in the wave (at the bottom), all the coppers' hats in there too, and Cameron desperately hiding behind Steve Hilton.

And the US, apparently on a wave of something browner than gold coins, in the background.

 

[ymu]

it's going to get more interesting anyway as this spreads from ni elsewhere

Of course. But the war-room makes it serious criminality. There was a case where the News Corp advertising business took over a competitor by hacking into their website and stealing their client details. The case got to court when 65 out of 85 employees had been made redundant and got settled when they agreed to sell the company to News Corp.

The allegation is that the Fox war room was about black ops, not just dodgy news gathering. Guards on the door, employees with access to it under surveillance. I can't imagine they can have cleaned up well enough to escape the consequences if that gets investigated.

 

[Pickman's model]

we'll wait and see

 

[Streathamite]

Nope, didn't notice that.

Mind you she was as impotent as a Chinese Panda in her role so perhaps that is no suprise.

the problem really is with the PCC itself; it's instutionally impotent and incapable of showing real teeth, which is hardly surprising as the meejah fund it

 

[Streathamite]

Of course. But the war-room makes it serious criminality. There was a case where the News Corp advertising business took over a competitor by hacking into their website and stealing their client details. The case got to court when 65 out of 85 employees had been made redundant and got settled when they agreed to sell the company to News Corp.

The allegation is that the Fox war room was about black ops, not just dodgy news gathering. Guards on the door, employees with access to it under surveillance. I can't imagine they can have cleaned up well enough to escape the consequences if that gets investigated.

There also rumours of a similar room having been installed at the WSJ, filled with state-of-the-art comms, IT, decryption and interception kit

 

[Streathamite]

Murdoch gets what he wants from government because they're fucking terrified of him - under Thatcher he got it because they were political soulmates.

They were terrified of him and the ratpack at NI - that vital psychological hold is broken now, probably for good.

 

[ymu]

Oh yes! It is great to be able to use the past tense, innit.