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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

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was there not a change in the law a few years ago in the Uk that made it a criminal offence for a lawyer to withhold information about a client involved in illegal activerty and put a duty on them to report such actions or face legal action themselves?

There was something like that.

But did it refer to all offences, or just terrrism and noncery?
 
Twitter war raging between Piers and Mensch now :D

not often piers can claim the moral high ground

Given his past, I'm sure that Piers Morgan can't claim the moral high ground over this. Allegedly he's a laughing stock over here in Britain right now. Besides, we're all more concerned that CNN will drop him, and he'll have no choice but to come back to Britain. Maybe the Australians will have him, should the worst happen? :D
 
Poor Clegg

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Has it been mentioned anywhere here that Lulzsec claim to have 4gb of News International emails which they plan to release?

Yes.

A far more productive form of protest than swinging off the Cenotaph, I'm sure you'll agree.

Probably why there have been dozens of arrests today of suspected Lulzsec members - instead of raiding the News of the World and y'know, doing their fucking job, the police instead chose to raid a bunch of kids after their corrupt misdeeds are threatened to be exposed via internet leaks.

I look forward to the contents of the emails. If it's anything like as hilarious as the HBGary emails it will be major news.
 
what are they waiting for pk?

I have no idea. Lots of arrests today. Plus stock fortunes might be getting rinsed before they drop the big one that'll send prices plummeting.

Could be any number of reasons. Could be they are bluffing to just troll the Murdochs.

But they got ACS Law and they got Sony and they got a shitload of other big companies without too much effort, plus they've published a few high level passwords - I seriously doubt News International is hacktivist-proof.
 
"While activists hoped data would be released to coincide with Rebekah Brooks’ testimony to parliament yesterday, the emails run to some 4 gigabytes and are taking longer than expected to sift through. Lulzsec members are editing the leaked material into a media-ready package with the ambitious aim of “bringing down News International”.

On Monday night, members of the mischievous but formidable group hijacked The Sun’s website, posting a fake report on the suicide of Rupert Murdoch.

During the same attack they also compromised sections of the News International email servers, downloading a large cache of private data — including login details for an email account used by Brooks while she was editor of The Sun.

Shortly after Monday’s attack, high profile member Sabu tweeted:

“Sun/News of the world OWNED. We’re sitting on their emails. Press release tomorrow.”

Sixteen members of Anonymous were arrested yesterday in the US, along with four in the Netherlands and one — reportedly a key member of LulzSec — in South London.

But the group has hit back, claiming: “There are six of us, and we’re all still here.”

This is going to be fun.
 
At the parliament recall today during the commons general debate, Geoffrey Cox, a tory pulled up keith vaz about the police's limiting the scope of the investigation to those 12 people. He seemed to be saying that it was in fact the attorney general at the time - 2006 Lord Goldsmith, who knew there were thousands of victims and who gave the instruction that the cps and the police should narrow the search to excluded most of those hacked. Vaz cliamed this wasn't put before him on the committee (it wasn't) and would look into it.

Jack straw got up to confirm the attorney general had never mentioned it to him, as a member of the cabinet, during that period.

Weird one. The attorney general knew about the thousands of hacked phones in 2006 but no-one else in the government did?!
 
At the parliament recall today during the commons general debate, Geoffrey Cox, a tory pulled up keith vaz about the police's limiting the scope of the investigation to those 12 people. He seemed to be saying that it was in fact the attorney general at the time - 2006 Lord Goldsmith, who knew there were thousands of victims and who gave the instruction that the cps and the police should narrow the search to excluded most of those hacked. Vaz cliamed this wasn't put before him on the committee (it wasn't) and would look into it.

Jack straw got up to confirm the attorney general had never mentioned it to him, as a member of the cabinet, during that period.

Weird one. The attorney general knew about the thousands of hacked phones in 2006 but no-one else in the government did?!
right, but so far Cox hasn't proved this allegation to be true, and it's not normal practice for the Attorney-general to get that close to individual investigations (I also thought that would be the justice secretary if anyone, i.e. Straw, who would stick his oar in.
 
IF they've got those emails, and the dibble haven't confiscated them yet.....

Much like Wikileaks, the files would be duplicated and shared among several people tasked with editing and tidying up the content to make it media-friendly.

I imagine the flurry of police activity today might have a lot to do with the potential of bent coppers being caught with pants down.

And they're only going on arrest info from the PayPal attacks, so it seems that Louise Boat is one step ahead of them.

If they've got this email cache - it will be released regardless of how many people get nicked - it's probably online already just waiting for an encryption key...
 
Much like Wikileaks, the files would be duplicated and shared among several people tasked with editing and tidying up the content to make it media-friendly.

I imagine the flurry of police activity today might have a lot to do with the potential of bent coppers being caught with pants down.

And they're only going on arrest info from the PayPal attacks, so it seems that Louise Boat is one step ahead of them.

If they've got this email cache - it will be released regardless of how many people get nicked - it's probably online already just waiting for an encryption key...
I very much hope that you're right, because I seriously want those emails out in front of the general public
 

I thought he justified it pretty well tbf although I doubt I'd actually say 'well done mate'
I don't think he deserves to be castigated or sneered at for it mind .. the copper with a big blob of foam on his nose and the other copper wiping the blokes face with a tissue plus Mrs Murdoch steaming in made it worthwhile in my dozy memory at least !
Plus it hardly altered the course of possible justice or anything at all at the end of the day !
 
What was it that was said when Yates said he was resigning and others should consider doing the same?

One of the committee said 'who do you mean?' He replied 'I think it's quite obvious'...one of the chair said 'the cps?' and he immediately replied 'news international'

Not exact quotes, obviously...when do we get around to the cps? :)
 
It would have saved the inept Committee a lot of time on Tuesday if they'd thought to write to, or call, Max Cliford on the question of whether his £million payoff was subject to a confidentiality clause - Gavin Ezler just asked him straight last night: "No, I didn't sign anything".

This affair needs trained lawyers (as per the PI). End of.
 
I thought he justified it pretty well tbf although I doubt I'd actually say 'well done mate'
I don't think he deserves to be castigated or sneered at for it mind .. the copper with a big blob of foam on his nose and the other copper wiping the blokes face with a tissue plus Mrs Murdoch steaming in made it worthwhile in my dozy memory at least !
Plus it hardly altered the course of possible justice or anything at all at the end of the day !

Pretty much agree with this. Not the most astute political act in the world but I see nothing wrong with injecting a bit of contempt of Parliament into proceedings and disturbing the hypocritical pomposity of the politicians. Murdoch deserved a pie in the face and he got one. I'm a bit disturbed by the amount of outrage being directed at the guy to be honest, especially people hoping the guy gets the book thrown at him. The fact is the entire event was an exercise in Politicians trying to restore their burnt reputations by demonstrating their "statesmanship" and I don't see why we should play along with the likes of Kieth, ban video games, Vaz and Louise, teach abstinance to school girls, Mensch as they try to enhance their careers and Parliamentary statures. A pie in the face deflates the event of its self importance and pomposity and there is nothing wrong with that.

Objections to this stunt take several forms. One is that it interfered with the questioning. Come on, as if the questioning by this bunch of mundanities was ever going to go anywhere near to revealing the truth. It had very little to do with finding the truth and far more to do with elevating the status of a Parliament which should be damaged by this scandal. Elevating the status of Parliament is not something we should really care too much about assisting these cowardly hypocrites with. I want this scandal to hurt the reputation of Politicians not enhance it. These brown nosing cowards have spent decades grovelling at Murdochs' feet and now we are supposed to celebrate their new found liberatation and their role as investigators of truth? Come off it. Therefore I see no reason to be outraged when the solemnity of these events are disturbed by a little absurdity.

The second objection is that it created sympathy for Murdoch and would be spun in the press. First this ignores the fact that the Murdoch press was going to do that anyway. Murdoch even gave them their sound bite with his humble day bollocks. Second this ignores the fact that the non Murdoch press have no interest in spinning a sympathetic view of Murdoch either but finally, what worries me most about this line of argument is that it is exactly the argument used to attack black bloc style direct action. How many times have we heard the argument that such actions will be used to smear " ordinary, peaceful" demonstrators, that they are a distraction etc. Now, I don't advocate this type of individual stunt anymore than I advocate the individualism of black bloc type civil disobedience. I think they are a substitute for mass action. But, because I don't advocate this type of action, it doesn't follow that I am going to line up to join the condemnation of such acts either.
 
... I don't see why we should play along with the likes of Kieth, ban video games, Vaz and Louise, teach abstinance to school girls, Mensch ....

I think you got a bit muddled there dylans. Rupert Murdoch was in front of the Culture Media & Sport Committee whose chairman is John Whittingdale not Keith Vaz. Yes Louise Mensch is on the Culture Media & Sport Committee but Keith Vaz is not. He (Vaz home affairs) had sessions with the police the same day. But the pie thrower appeared without invitation in front of the Culture Media & Sport Committee.
 
Today other papers are going to get dragged into the shit, as purple have bothered to dig out and read the two information commiosioner.so offices reports into this that were presented to parliament in 2006.
What Price Privacy Now? (pdf)
What Price Privacy?
They identify massive theft of personal info by non NI papers, the mail and the mirror in particular.

edit: to put links in
 
I think you got a bit muddled there dylans. Rupert Murdoch was in front of the Culture Media & Sport Committee whose chairman is John Whittingdale not Keith Vaz. Yes Louise Mensch is on the Culture Media & Sport Committee but Keith Vaz is not. He (Vaz home affairs) had sessions with the police the same day. But the pie thrower appeared without invitation in front of the Culture Media & Sport Committee.

It's the proceedings as a whole I am referring to.
 
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They identify massive theft of personal info by non NI papers, the mail and the mirror in particular.

That would be good, other papers have had an easy ride so far. I am no great fan of NI titles but I think the focus on them alone to date leaves a bad taste.
 
Today other papers are going to get dragged into the shit, as purple have bothered to dig out and read the two information commiosioner.so offices reports into this that were presented to parliament in 2006.
WHAT_PRICE_PRIVACY.ashx
WHAT_PRICE_PRIVACY_NOW.pdf (pdf)

They identify massive theft of personal info by non NI papers, the mail and the mirror in particular.
The net widens.
 
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