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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

it was legal then, a bit cheeky, but nothing unlawful. you do understand the difference, dont you?

of course do and companies arent supposed to break the law, neither are people but they do. what happened with millie was obviously bang out of order, and i think most people would draw the line at hacking into phones of crime victims etc. im not sure people feel the same about celebs and politicians, i dont think most people care - and as for browns intervention, whilst of course it must have been sad that it came out about his kid the way it did, but he was the fucking chancellor, doesnt it kind of come with the territory
 
of course do and companies arent supposed to break the law, neither are people but they do. what happened with millie was obviously bang out of order, and i think most people would draw the line at hacking into phones of crime victims etc. im not sure people feel the same about celebs and politicians, i dont think most people care - and as for browns intervention, whilst of course it must have been sad that it came out about his kid the way it did, but he was the fucking chancellor, doesnt it kind of come with the territory

Dodgy mortgages? Fair dos. Dying kid? Get to fuck.

Yes, everyone always knew this kinda thing went on. And it was accepted with a shrug and a 'what can you do?' But now, people have found out that they can (maybe) do something, and boy, are they/we reveling in it.
 
Have I missed the confirmation that FBI to investigate News Corporation over 9/11 hacking allegations?

But:



So it'll have to be a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) prosecution :D


Well then we just need to bring the big guns to bear.

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squidgygate proves this kind of thing was routine only 20 years ago, pretty hard to avoid when conversations were flying through the air unprotected - as i recall the only real note of dissent was the fact it happened to charlie and di, not that it was going on

I don't think 'squidgygate' is very relevant, because whichever version of the story you believe, it wasn't a phone hack by the media.

Either - as first reported - it was recorded by an amateur radio ham who overheard the conversation by chance. More recently it's been suggested - credibly - that the recording actually came from a landline tap by the security services, was edited to make it sound more like a mobile phone, and then deliberately broadcast where it was likely to be overheard in an attempt to smear Di.
 
yeah i suppose so



agree again. i'm not saying im in favour or against it really, i'm not sure. just that this is something thats developed without any real discussion on what it means, and by and large it exists to serve the agenda of the rich and powerful. squidgygate proves this kind of thing was routine only 20 years ago, pretty hard to avoid when conversations were flying through the air unprotected - as i recall the only real note of dissent was the fact it happened to charlie and di, not that it was going on

I think that part of the problem with a codified right to privacy would be that it would (at least going on current trends) be expensive to enforce, and therefore, like libel, available more to the rich than to "ordinary people".

As for "Squidgygate", the type of "hacking" then was very different: Mere interception of an unencrypted radio signal seems a bit more innocent nowadays than bribing or duping access codes from telecoms staff.

now weve got to the point where a public figure like mosley can keep what was arguably criminal activity out of the press just so his missus doesnt find out what he's really up to - what we're basically talking about it the right to keep secrets, keeping secrets is fine, but you have to be careful and if you really dont want to be found out then you dont do it - id say it was the individuals responsibility to keep their own secrets, not the responsibility of anyone who might have found out

(obv phone hacking is a bit of a greyish area)

I can't say I disagree.
 
Ha, just realised Brooks has gone when half the BBC news department is on strike.

Undoubtedly the very last act of spite against the BBC she will ever undertake.

Even if she didn't mean to. I'm sure BBC have already put together her obituary in case she decides to do herself in.

I can only imagine the anguish she is going through would be a mere fraction of what the evil cunt put the Dowlers through, or the McCanns, and countless other people whos emotional turmoil she decided to rape to please her cunt boss Murdoch.

David Cameron stayed at her house over Xmas, he should fuck off now too.

I won't be happy until Murdoch goes the way of the Maxwell, and James is jailed or in hiding after 9/11 victims vow to destroy him, and Fox News is forever tainted by this.

Fucking brilliant news. Guilt is all News Int have left.
 
Dodgy mortgages? Fair dos. Dying kid? Get to fuck.

Yes, everyone always knew this kinda thing went on. And it was accepted with a shrug and a 'what can you do?' But now, people have found out that they can (maybe) do something, and boy, are they/we reveling in it.

If they got there finger out of their arse and that murderer convicted on mobile phone evidence (subsequently come to light NI also had access to same phone) before Tues then this would go down this side of the Atlantic, politicians seem to be playing for party advantage, which gives Murdoch a chance of fire fighting with petrol, and leaves it up to the Americans
 
So bank accounts were broken into, phones hacked, computers hacked... because people are interested? Is that what you think?

yes, i dont see any real political capital in hacking into abi titmus' phone, do you?

of course some of the information gleaned from MPs etc was used for political capital, thats how it works, the same thing would have happened however the information was gathered
 
I won't be happy until Murdoch goes the way of the Maxwell,
That brought to mind the joke doing the rounds at the time about the prostitute on Maxwells yacht,Maxwell walked up to her and asked for her to toss him off,so she did.
 
and the sun and the sunday times and the times and a fuck load of money.

All tainted by the smell of dead children, and victims of terror attacks, as the share price reflects.

If you can't see an endgame here you must be as blind as you are lonely.
 
really? You think this scandal has strengthened capital? Do tell us how.

it certainly hasn't weakened it. i don't know if it's strengthened it, but i suspect so - how, it creates the false dynamic of good/bad capitalists, look the evil capitalist has been removed (or might be), long live 'good' capitalism
 
Well Brooks had to go.

It's what happens longer term though that's really important - how much damage will it have inflicted/continue to inflict on the Murdoch organisation. I understand what smokedout is saying - I certainly don't think it will harm capitalism much. But it's certainly good to see Murdoch and his dirty fucking empire take knocks.
 
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