Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[stethoscope]

I wished we could start to take Dacre out aswell.

 

[belboid]

well, it certainly wont do any damage of we all took the attitude of 'yeah well, what do you expect? so what?'

But, the reality, is that it has brought loads of questions about how the media work, and about who should be allowed to own what into the spotlight. And, whilst capitalism will surely still be standing once those discussions have been had, it'll be slightly more uncomfortable doing so.

 

[killer b]

I wished we could start to take Dacre out aswell.

soon come, steph.

 

[peterkro]

Prescott making a fairly good fist of putting the knife in Murdoch in the Lords,in spite of his eccentric delivery he's making some very good points.

 

[laptop]

I wished we could start to take Dacre out aswell.

I am reliably informed there is reason to hope that he'll at least get an uncomfortable grilling.

 

[smokedout]

C'mon, "if not stronger" was just a rhetorical flourish. It's arguable, but not worth arguing

yeah you're probably right, but god loves a trier

 

[smokedout]

well, it certainly wont do any damage of we all took the attitude of 'yeah well, what do you expect? so what?'

we didn't do this, we were just spectators

 

[weltweit]

Is it just me, or does News International seem to get through a lot of editors?

 

[belboid]

we didn't do this, we were just spectators

well, you are.

 

[claphamboy]

Ding dong the witch is gone.

One down, two to go.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Small update from the Graun live blog here on the US side of things - see here

 

[MellySingsDoom]

More Graun live stuff - this time, Murdoch's comments from a closed House of Lords session in 2007 - here

Here's what he says on Sky News:

Murdoch also said that Sky News could be more popular if it emulated his US channel Fox News.

The committee's minutes said: "He believed that Sky News would be more popular if it were more like the Fox News channel.

"Then it would be 'a proper alternative to the BBC'. One of the reasons that it is not a proper alternative to the BBC is that no broadcaster or journalist in the UK knows any different.

"Mr Murdoch stated that Sky News could become more like Fox without a change to the impartiality rules in the UK.

"For example, Sky had not yet made the presentational progress that Fox News had. He stated that the only reason that Sky News was not more like Fox News was that 'nobody at Sky listens to me'."

 

[Pickman's model]

and capitalism remains as strong, if not stronger than ever

what's your point, caller?

 

[butchersapron]

Latest rumour, Sunday Mirror editor (also on the PCC, more genius!) reported to met for hacking.

 

[weltweit]

Apparently Rupert Murdoch will be running adverts in all papers tommorow to apologise for what has happenned.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

More police investigations headaches for la Brooks c/o BBC News

 

[weltweit]

So, we know I think that 4,000 people have probably been hacked.

That is, had their privacy violated.

Also "Hacked off" represents some of those who already know they have been hacked. Perhaps more and more people will flock to Hacked Off when it becomes clear that they have been hacked. There they can get advice on how much compensation they should be due.

Various people like Hugh Grant and Max Clifford and Sienna Miller have already agreed compensation payouts with News International so it may be possible to estimate the total compensation costs for News International.

I think I heard that Max Clifford received a payout of about a million.

 

[Santino]

More police investigations headaches for la Brooks c/o BBC News

Is it scabbing to click that link?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Is it scabbing to click that link?

Yes, er no, er......

<rejoins picket with shifty look on face>

(I listened to R4 this morn too....oh noes!)

 

[butchersapron]

More on that rumour i mentioned earlier. This is either a total red herring or quite significant, it's from Max Keiser so i'm sceptical, gives no source for the Police stuff:

Scotland Yard investigating U.S. citizen victim of Murdoch's phone hacking; named in complaint; BBC, M.Freud, T. Weaver, R. Wade, P. Morgan

Here

Sunday Mirror's Tina Weaver used phone hacked information for purposes of blackmail in 2002 and she told me @piersmorgan was aware of this.

Here


EDIT: he claims that the source of the first claim is a copper in the met and that there's a copper named in the compliant as well, a DC White.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

They didn't just hack Millie Dowler's voicemail. They deleted messages on it in the early days of the police investigation of her disappearance. It's far more than privacy. It's about the NotW assuming the right to interfere with a police investigation and to mislead the parents of a missing teenager in the hope that they might find a story... and then bribing and blackmailing people to cover it up afterwards.

I think it's also very much about the evidently corrupt relationship the Murdoch press had with the Met ...

 

[butchersapron]

There's also this in The Nation: Has Roger Ailes Hacked American Phones for Fox News?

“Has Roger Ailes been keeping tabs on your phone calls?”
 
That’s how Portfolio.com began a post back in 2008, when a former Fox News executive charged that Ailes had outfitted a highly secured “brain room” in Fox’s New York headquarters for “counterintelligence” and may have used it to hack into private phone records.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Apparently Rupert Murdoch will be running adverts in all papers tommorow to apologise for what has happenned.

Are you sure you're reading every post?

 

[killer b]

i'd call welt's posts 'stream of consciousness drivel', but without the conscious bit.

 

[weltweit]

...
so it may be possible to estimate the total compensation costs for News International.
...

I wonder if NI have any business liability insurance that covers compensation?

 

[weltweit]

Are you sure you're reading every post?

Yes, pretty sure. I didn't notice if it had already been posted if that is what you mean.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I think that answers my question.

 

[weltweit]

i'd call welt's posts 'stream of consciousness drivel', but without the conscious bit.

I will have you know, I am fully conscious!!

 

[weltweit]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I think that answers my question.

I do rely on the NewPosts feature, I think it works... it better had ...

 

[sheothebudworths]

Well you do repeat an awful lot of what's already been written, although tbf you're hardly the only one on such a fast moving thread. I'm only (just) keeping up because I've foregone sleep/child care/housework/leaving the house/life/all personal hygiene etc completely over the last week.