Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[gavman]

not really a joking matter, tbh.

wasn't joking so much as speculating

 

[editor]

News of the World Channel 4 piece here:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-targets-met-police-detective

Second video down: Rebekah Brooks is going to investigate herself!

Watch Simon Greenberg squirm!

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Radio 4 says that Ford are removing their advertising from News of the World.

as have Renault, Halifax.. and mumsnet have dropped an ad campaign on sky and taken NOTW ads down from their site...

more to come...

 

[agricola]

wasn't joking so much as speculating

I thought Charlie Brooker being on urban was a joke? In any case, its not him (or the other one) that was meant.

 

[Roadkill]

not really a joking matter, tbh.

No, it isn't. It's almost funny, watching the News of the Screws flounder and the rest of the papers lining up to have a pop at Murdoch, but how it must feel for Milly Dowler's family, and the rest of those who might have been on the receiving end of it...

 

[gavman]

i think the jon snow / simon greenberg interview is going down as one of my all time favourites

 

[editor]

The more this goes on, the more stinky the Met look as well. I smell cover ups. BIG ones.

 

[paolo]

Why has this only just come out now? Surely they must have known fairly quickly that someone who was not Milly Dowler had been accessing her voicemail. Is it massively cynical of me to think that the police knew it was a paper, and thought they'd just let it lie?

Also conceivable that the list so massive, and so full of bomb shells, they haven't prioritised it, just working through in a random order.

It's not like this is the very last one on the list. Not at all.

(eta: Awhile back, they were, of course, just ignoring the list - until pressure later came to bear. But now they seem to be getting through it. Some of it, at least.)

 

[yardbird]

Put this on the other thread, but it would not be a suprise to discover that at least two urbans have been hacked.

I was not joking when I posted this and nor am I now.

 

[ymu]

I thought Charlie Brooker being on urban was a joke? In any case, its not him (or the other one) that was meant.

I was not joking when I posted this and nor am I now.

Yeah. Not having a go at anyone at all, but can we drop speculating who here might have been targeted unless they want to come forward and tell us that themselves? This isn't about celebrities any more.

 

[agricola]

Also conceivable that the list so massive, and so full of bomb shells, they haven't prioritised it, just working through in a random order.

It's not like this is the very last one on the list. Not at all.

No, Surrey Police definately knew about this in 2002 - the NOTW actually told them they had intercepted voice messages on Milly's phone.

 

[gavman]

anything milly related would have been sub judicie until the end of the trial. perhaps that's why it's coming out now

 

[paolo]

No, Surrey Police definately knew about this in 2002 - the NOTW actually told them they had intercepted voice messages on Milly's phone.

Agree - edited my post to reflect the "sitting on info" aspect.

 

[yardbird]

Yeah. Not having a go at anyone at all, but can we drop speculating who here might have been targeted unless they want to come forward and tell us that themselves? This isn't about celebrities any more.

Fair enough

 

[AKA pseudonym]

:d

 

[ericjarvis]

Second video down: Rebekah Brooks is going to investigate herself!

Watch Simon Greenberg squirm!

I thought the best bit was the way he tried to make out that it was just allegations and nothing should be made of them until they have been investigated... like that's been the NOTW modus operandi all these years.

I give you tomorrow's headline. "News of the World want to fact check a story".

 

[ymu]

anything milly related would have been sub judici until the end of the trial. perhaps that's why it's coming out now

Would have been nice if that had been true, I grant you.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

hmmmmm..... guess where Murdoch is and who is with.....

Don't bother ringing or texting Rupert Murdoch this week – he won't be answering. The same goes for Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Google's Eric Schmidt, Zynga's Marc Pincus, Liberty Media (and Austar) boss John Malone, investor Warren Buffet and Groupon's Andrew Mason, among others. Along with many other technology and media top cats they are attending investment bank Allen & Co.'s annual media and technology leaders' conference in Sun Valley, where mobiles and texting are banned, at least during conference hours.

source

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...ow-is-the-moment-to-stop-murdoch-2307410.html
Good article in today's Independent.

 

[shagnasty]

Seems the NOTW title could dissapear

The affair could eventually have profound effects on the 168-year-old News of the World. Last week News International announced that it was moving towards integrating its Sunday and daily operations on The Sun and the News of the World, with a joint managing editor brought in to oversee the operations.

It would have been inconceivable then, but yesterday one media commentator speculated that as a result of the continuing and deepening problems the News of the World brand could disappear entirely, to be replaced by a Sunday Sun. "No one in News International would want it to happen, but after all this I don't think you can rule it out," they said.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

another one bites the dust!

BREAKING NEWS [EXCLUSIVE] Subtile Media Ltd have just announced that they have cancelled their £1.5 Million advertisement contract and are seeking legal action to reclaim their money. DOA (Director Of Advertising) Neil Fordham said "We value our consumers opinion and in this case are taking action from the feed back we received. Currently our contract with News International has a year remaining, and we are seeking legal advice to receive the outstanding money. All our adverts across News International platforms will be removed from early next week. This includes The Sun Newspaper and associated websites. We will now be looking at other means of advertisement."

and Butlins are dithering:

In response to the posts on here about our advertising in the News of the World, we just wanted to let you know that in light of the current situation, we are reviewing things, we are watching the investigation for more information and have no advertisement booked for this Sunday. In view of the ongoing police investigation, we're unable to comment further on this. Thanks as ever for your support.

 

[agricola]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...ow-is-the-moment-to-stop-murdoch-2307410.html
Good article in today's Independent.

It isnt, its a relatively lazy piece which merely reheats everything that other people have worked to expose; and tbh any article on this issue which pretends as much as that one does that this is a problem specific to News International should be regarded as deeply suspect.

 

[ymu]

It isnt, its a relatively lazy piece which merely reheats everything that other people have worked to expose; and tbh any article on this issue which pretends as much as that one does that this is a problem specific to News International should be regarded as deeply suspect.

That's a bizarre interpretation of a piece which is pointing out the wood, not the trees. Whatever you think of the article, that is a really lazy dismissal of an article which contains this:

The details of who knew what and when are as ghoulishly fascinating as they are undeniably significant. But fixating on the personnel risks obscuring the grander portrait of a system so dominated in absentia by its unconstitutional monarch – two-bit politicians come and go while Murdoch, like the Queen, abides – that its nominal leaders quail in mortal terror of his wrath.

This isn't just about some third rate hacks being a bit naughty, really.

 

[claphamboy]

Seems the NOTW title could dissapear

The affair could eventually have profound effects on the 168-year-old News of the World. Last week News International announced that it was moving towards integrating its Sunday and daily operations on The Sun and the News of the World, with a joint managing editor brought in to oversee the operations.

It would have been inconceivable then, but yesterday one media commentator speculated that as a result of the continuing and deepening problems the News of the World brand could disappear entirely, to be replaced by a Sunday Sun. "No one in News International would want it to happen, but after all this I don't think you can rule it out," they said.

I would be surprised by that, as the Mirror Group already publishes the Sunday Sun, it's a regional title coming out of Newcastle upon Tyne.

 

[andy2002]

Second video down: Rebekah Brooks is going to investigate herself!

Watch Simon Greenberg squirm!

I used to know Greenberg when he was at Chelsea and I worked on their club magazine. He was a slimey, repulsive little shit back then and nothing seems to have changed.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Robert Peston on radio 4 specualting that the BSkyB deal will now get pulled as News International are argualbly not 'fit and proper persons'.

So all in all a good chance of Coulson going to prison for bribing the cops, Rebbeca Wade sacked, NOTW sued to fuck and potentailly finsished, Murdoch's bid for BSkyB thrown out, plenty of egg on camerons face and a public enquiry into News international and their relationship with the met - which may well uncover even further slime.

Not the end of Murdochs empire, but a serious fucking kick in its bollocks. I hope it hasstens the poisonous cunts demise.

 

[ska invita]

Someone has put up a list of the private email addresses of the CEOs of the main NotW advertisers

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_GB&key=tNYNhuJL7bcUwlXMQJ4zF9g&toomany=true

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Armando Ianucci, I believe.

 

[Roadkill]

Robert Peston on radio 4 specualting that the BSkyB deal will now get pulled as News International are argualbly not 'fit and proper persons'.

So all in all a good chance of Coulson going to prison for bribing the cops, Rebbeca Wade sacked, NOTW sued to fuck and potentailly finsished, Murdoch's bid for BSkyB thrown out, plenty of egg on camerons face and a public enquiry into News international and their relationship with the met - which may well uncover even further slime.

Not the end of Murdochs empire, but a serious fucking kick in its bollocks. I hope it hasstens the poisonous cunts demise.

This.

I can certainly see the government chucking out the BSkyB bid, not out of any high-minded principle, but because it'd be politically insupportable given how much outrage there is about the NotW's behaviour.

It'd be brilliant to see Coulson re-arrested and stuck on trial too, since that would draw flak back in Cameron's direction.

 

[trashpony]

Robert Peston on radio 4 specualting that the BSkyB deal will now get pulled as News International are argualbly not 'fit and proper persons'.

So all in all a good chance of Coulson going to prison for bribing the cops, Rebbeca Wade sacked, NOTW sued to fuck and potentailly finsished, Murdoch's bid for BSkyB thrown out, plenty of egg on camerons face and a public enquiry into News international and their relationship with the met - which may well uncover even further slime.

Not the end of Murdochs empire, but a serious fucking kick in its bollocks. I hope it hasstens the poisonous cunts demise.

Coulson should be done for lying during the previous investigation too surely? Since he maintained he knew nothing about the phone hacking when he must have done if he was signing off cheques for hundreds of thousands.

I hope people cancel their fucking sky subs now - it has always amazed me how many people can conveniently overlook the fact that they are part of Murdoch's corrupt empire