Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[ymu]

isnt most of the information coming from mulcaire's many thousands of pages of meticulous notes? i would have thought any other tabloids / private investigators doing the same would have made sure they have destroyed all incriminating evidence by now

The Daily Mail is leading on the number of appearances in the paperwork, IIRC. All the tabloids and most of the rest are implicated in this. Murdoch is the first empire to look vulnerable.

 

[ymu]

Why has this only just come out now? Surely they must have known fairly quickly that someone who was not Milly Dowler had been accessing her voicemail. Is it massively cynical of me to think that the police knew it was a paper, and thought they'd just let it lie?

The police did know. They didn't investigate it. That's how the Independent know Brooks is lying about not knowing. The paper contacted the police at the time to tell them about it.

 

[binka]

i didnt see mulcaire on newsnight but i understand he has said brooks knew all about it. does this mean mulcair is going to be prepared to give evidence in court to that effect? i'd probably be lying low for a while if i was him tbh

 

[editor]

Come someone to explain to me the bit about the NoTW paying the police for information?

 

[agricola]

The News of the World were following Daniel Morgan whilst the police had him under surveillance. The police put him in witness protection because of it. His partner, John Rees, was selling information from police contacts to the tabloids. He ended up with an axe in his head, and John Rees got off because the police deliberately fucked up the investigation.

Of course it started back then. Shortly after Murdoch got into the tabloid business here.

I have never heard that before, do you have a link?

 

[ericjarvis]

I feel a bit stupid asking this but I can't seem to grasp what exactly the NOTW's motivations were for hacking into Milly's phone in the first place ? Would appreciate if someone could put me right on that no matter how obvious it is.

Basically they don't know what they are after when they do this sort of shit. It's simply that they want to have something to print about whoever is front page news that the other papers don't have. They don't actually care about what it is or how they get it, it just has to be something that gives them an excuse to hang another front page story on somebody they think people want to read about.

 

[gavman]

I dont know if you can put the Daniel Morgan murder down to this, its more likely that was down to corrupt police and private investigators themselves fearing exposure of what they were up to.

watch c4 news. it's explosive

 

[Threshers_Flail]

they failed a bit. c4 news was epic, however. i can't link to it...maybe it's been hacked

watch c4 news. it's explosive

Yeah was a bit let down. If anyone can find today's C4 news please could they post it on here, am looking now.

 

[8115]

The police did know. They didn't investigate it. That's how the Independent know Brooks is lying about not knowing. The paper contacted the police at the time to tell them about it.

Which paper, NOTW? Called the police up and said "yeah we've been hacking this voicemail, it was us"? And the police said "oh, ok, thanks for letting us know". It would be funny if it wasn't so grotesque.

 

[gavman]

isnt most of the information coming from mulcaire's many thousands of pages of meticulous notes? i would have thought any other tabloids / private investigators doing the same would have made sure they have destroyed all incriminating evidence by now

it's been in the hands of the met for 6 years, completely safe from any police investigation

 

[London_Calling]

It'll be on the C4 iPLayer.

 

[agricola]

The Daily Mail is leading on the number of appearances in the paperwork, IIRC. All the tabloids and most of the rest are implicated in this. Murdoch is the first empire to look vulnerable.

That was Whittamores stash, seized by the Information Commissioner in 2003, IIRC. Mulcaire was either mainly or exclusively NOTW, at least all of his exposed stuff has been for them.

 

[Gingerman]

Andrew Neil tweet:

FT also reports Andy Coulson fears he will be made scapegoat. Thinks he might soon be arrested.....might start singing,

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

We need to know exactly which filth have been taking money and sitting on the truth. But we won't.

 

[Gingerman]

Is this the Ratner moment for the Scum & NotW?

 

[editor]

News of the World Channel 4 piece here:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-targets-met-police-detective

 

[8115]

Radio 4 says that Ford are removing their advertising from News of the World.

 

[ymu]

I have never heard that before, do you have a link?

Watch Channel 4 News from tonight.

 

[ymu]

Which paper, NOTW? Called the police up and said "yeah we've been hacking this voicemail, it was us"? And the police said "oh, ok, thanks for letting us know". It would be funny if it wasn't so grotesque.

Yes.

And yes.

 

[gavman]

News of the World Channel 4 piece here:
http://www.channel4.com/news/news-of-the-world-targets-met-police-detective

it's the interview almost at the bottom for epic failness, and the top one re morgan for the horror

 

[ericjarvis]

what about brooks, coulson, a doberman and a locked room?

Might just work. Hack the doberman's vet's phone, bug the locked room, get some photo's of Brooks' postman and Coulson's mother (preferably topless), and you may well have a story. You can just say "I was just doing my job" if anyone gets upset. As Johann Hari told me as we waited in the queue at the Jobcentre "My test for journalism is always – would the readers mind you did this, or prefer it?"

 

[agricola]

Watch Channel 4 News from tonight.

I thought that it was DCS Cook (who was on the fourth or fifth investigation into Morgans death) the private detectives hired by NOTW were following, not that Morgan was followed by them initially and then murdered as described above?

 

[paolo]

Spot the odd one out:


Newspapers Front Page Roundup, Courtesy of Sky News twitter feed.



BROADSHEETS

Graun: Leads with 'Police review child murders as hacking outcry escalates'

Indy: Leads with 'Brooks contacted Dowler private detective herself'

Telegraph: Leads with 'Hackers "snooped on Soham families"'

Times: Leads with bias in judge demographics, second is 'Cameron faces calls for inquiry on hacking'

FT: Leads with 'Murdoch's chiefs fight fallout over hacking'


TABLOIDS:

Mail: Leads with 'Public Sector Salary Myth'; Second is 'News of the World hackers 'targeted the parents of Holly and Jessica' '.

Express: Leads with 'Now Salt is Safe to Eat' (!); Second is similar to Mail, re: Soham Parents Hack.


RED TOPS

The Mirror: Leads with Soham family hacked

The Star: Leads with Kate Fury over Fake...; Second with 'Holly & Jessica linked to hacking scandal'.

The Sun: Erm, no. Nothing at all on the hacking.

 

[moochedit]

just said on bbc news 24 that they were hacking the family of 7/7 victims.

 

[gavman]

oh god, they must've missed it. how embarrassing
perhaps we should e-mail the sun's newsroom. it's in the thread somewhere. they'll be pleased to be told

 

[yardbird]

Put this on the other thread, but it would not be a suprise to discover that at least two urbans have been hacked.

 

[gavman]

charlie brooker and krish gm?

 

[agricola]

charlie brooker and krish gm?

not really a joking matter, tbh.

 

[paolo]

Put this on the other thread, but it would not be a suprise to discover that at least two urbans have been hacked.

Based on tonight's revelations, I now wouldn't be surprised if they had a pop at a friend's sibling. She's no celebrity, but fits the (ever broadening) target profile.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Come someone to explain to me the bit about the NoTW paying the police for information?

Brooks did admit it in 2003 havent heard any proper reasons yet...