Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[agricola]

All good points, but what some people are smelling now is jounos turning on each other - the days where we don't do that to each other have been destroyed by the internet, this is different.

Is it though? None of the NOTW journalists have publicly come out and said what was going on, the other tabloids havent exactly gone to down on this story, and there is ample anecdotal evidence (like this, for instance) that the old ways continue. If anything, there is probably a massive effort behind the scenes to keep every other paper out of the firing line on this, for the simple reason that they have so much to lose.

 

[paolo]

It can only be that NotW hacked the British PM - what else could it be.

I thought his phone being hacked was awhile back (when chancellor), but when it was discovered Brown chose not to pursue it because it would have looked too cheap in the election battle?

Maybe it's that, but with much more juicy detail (e.g. child as you say). Or something new.

All will be revealed shortly I guess.

 

[gavman]

you're right, it grates. so please shut the fuck up.

so that makes how many people on this thread do you require to stfu?
just who is it that you think you are?

i'm absolutely certain that others on here don't share your high opinion of yourself. go away

 

[agricola]

It's the fact that he's going to be having a go at The Sunday Times, not a tabloid, that is whetting whistles, I think. People are itching for this to emphatically encompass all things Murdoch. Brown's credibility doesn't matter any more than Bryant's or Grant's.

True, it does raise questions about what will happen to Miliband afterwards though (given the Baldwin link).

 

[temper_tantrum]

Brown: phone & bank details apparently.
They did people's computers too, still waiting for that shoe to drop.

 

[ymu]

It can only be that NotW hacked the British PM - what else could it be.

Probably when his child died, as well.

Oh, I dunno, summat about governments seeking approval for policy from Murdoch before implementing it, changing policy at his behest, that kind of thing. You know, not just gossipy shite.

 

[gavman]

Schadenfreude is the taking of pleasure in the misfortune of others, or at least that's the best I can render it in English. It's not about a desire to read stories that confirm your prejudices.

i defined it as exactly that, taking pleasure in the misfortune of celebs

 

[agricola]

I thought his phone being hacked was awhile back (when chancellor), but when it was discovered Brown chose not to pursue it because it would have looked too cheap in the election battle?

Maybe it's that, but with much more juicy detail (e.g. child as you say). Or something new.

All will be revealed shortly I guess.

If I had to guess, it would be the stories from around 2009 that he was on medication, which (IIRC) actually named which medication he was on. Such information could not, one imagines, have been obtained by normal means.

 

[The Octagon]

Bank account hacked when he was Chancellor is the rumour....

 

[butchersapron]

Is it though? None of the NOTW journalists have publicly come out and said what was going on, the other tabloids havent exactly gone to down on this story, and there is ample anecdotal evidence (like this, for instance) that the old ways continue. If anything, there is probably a massive effort behind the scenes to keep every other paper out of the firing line on this, for the simple reason that they have so much to lose.

I said they can smell it - the chance of it happening. I can. I'm sure the massive effort is going on, but as i said, the they can't control but a small part of the media world now. There's all sorts of slack mouthed people who've been in and left...and they've all got the internet... and few hundred more after last week

 

[treelover]

'Just wait, people opposed to these actions are not going to not bother fighting because there's a media emphasis on something else'



didn't mean that, this time, but the two issues are crucial

 

[agricola]

Bank account hacked when he was Chancellor is the rumour....

If that genuinely is it, then Miliband must be going absolutely mental. That is exactly (albeit it was to the tory bank account, and not Ashcrofts) what Baldwin was doing.

 

[butchersapron]

i defined it as exactly that, taking pleasure in the misfortune of celebs

No that's not it exactly at all.

 

[butchersapron]

If that genuinely is it, then Miliband must be going absolutely mental. That is exactly (albeit it was to the tory bank account, and not Ashcrofts) what Baldwin was doing.

Was he?

 

[two sheds]

No that's not it exactly at all.

Yes, "this is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think. "

 

[gavman]

'More details are emerging about the garden party thrown by Matthew Freud and Elisabeth Murdoch in Oxfordshire last weekend, where guests included Rebekah Brooks, Alan Yentob and film director Tim Burton. It turns out BBC business editor Robert Peston, who is close to News International general manager Will Lewis, was also at the bash, resplendent in a peach cotton scarf. He was huddled together with Brooks, Lewis and James Murdoch for a good part of the evening, according to an eyewitness. Meanwhile, Jon Snow of Channel 4 News, which would break fresh revelations about Brooks later in the week, apparently cavorted on the dancefloor in embarrassing dad fashion. If the NI boss had known about the coverage Channel 4 News had planned she would have stuck a foot out as he strutted his stuff. '



not a crime but it increasingly shows up the power grids in this country, etc..

fair point, but i don't think you could accuse jon snow of pulling his punches on this. c4 news seems to be in the vanguard

 

[rikwakefield]

News Corp withdraws bid for BSkyB.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Bank account hacked when he was Chancellor is the rumour....

Gordon Brown is soon to share what the police have http://blogs.channel4.com/gary​-gib...s-ban​k-details-hacked-by-sunday-tim​es/15800 told him. I understand he’s been told that police think his bank accounts were illegally accessed by The Sunday Times when he was Chancellor.

announcement due before 5pm

 

[TruXta]

News Corp withdraws bid for BSkyB.

Sauce?

 

[AKA pseudonym]

News Corp withdraws bid for BSkyB.

source?

 

[editor]

Gordon Brown will today break his silence over the phone-hacking scandal by accusing Rupert Murdoch's News International of illegally accessing his personal details, The Independent has learnt.

In a dramatic intervention in the deepening scandal, the Labour former Prime Minister is understood to be about to claim that private investigators working for the UK's largest newspaper group hacked his phone and accessed his personal bank account.

It is believed that material based on some of the illicitly-obtained information was subsequently used by one of News International's titles.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/im-a-hacking-victim-too-gordon-brown-to-say-2311980.html

 

[rikwakefield]

Statement just released by them. Watching it on the news.

 

[Badgers]

News Corp withdraws bid for BSkyB.

Soorze?

 

[temper_tantrum]

Davies has got in before Gordon Brown had the chance to speak:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/phone-hacking-news-international-gordon-brown

Edit: Bank account, legal file and medical records apparently.
Edit: And tax paperwork via his accountant's computer - so now we start to get onto the computer hacking. About time.

 

[butchersapron]

fair point, but i don't think you could accuse jon snow of pulling his punches on this. c4 news seems to be in the vanguard

Of the enlightened? You miss the point. It's about how the powerful interact. Not what punches they pull. (as if you'd know not being on the inside)

 

[editor]

It's being suggested that it was The Sunday Times that hacked Brown...

*sound of gears being ratcheted up

 

[gavman]

No that's not it exactly at all.

taking pleasure in the misfortune of others, in this case celebs.
pedant

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, "this is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think. "

How about wanda jackson?

 

[Badgers]

It's being suggested that it was The Sunday Times that hacked Brown...

*sound of gears being ratcheted up

 

[editor]

Davies has got in before Gordon Brown had the chance to speak:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/phone-hacking-news-international-gordon-brown

Edit: Bank account, legal file and medical records apparently.

From that article:

Journalists from across News International repeatedly targeted the former prime minister Gordon Brown, attempting to access his voicemail and obtaining information from his bank account, his legal file as well as his family's medical records.

There is also evidence that a private investigator used a serving police officer to trawl the police national computer for information about him.

That investigator also targeted another Labour MP who was the subject of hostile inquiries by the News of the World, but it has not confirmed whether News International was specifically involved in trawling police computers for information on Brown.

Separately, Brown's tax paperwork was taken from his accountant's office apparently by hacking into the firm's computer. This was passed to another newspaper.

Brown was targeted during a period of more than 10 years, both as chancellor of the exchequer and as prime minister. Some of the activity clearly was illegal. Other incidents breached his privacy but not the law. An investigation by the Guardian has found that:

This is deep, deep criminal activity.