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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

"Reports suggest that Gordon Brown will make a statement around 4.30 which will cause the hacking story to explode." Yahoo news on Twitter.

Feel I ought to pop down to pub to watch this, like the deciding session of an Ashes Test.
 
And he's been appointed by Murdoch to help get them out of the shit. He will mire them further in it. He was the DPP that managed the original investigation down to triviality too. Murdoch's bribable friends are now tainted by his bribery. The power has dissolved to nothing.
Oh, they couldn't have made a less credible choice....
 
"Reports suggest that Gordon Brown will make a statement around 4.30 which will cause the hacking story to explode." Yahoo news on Twitter.

Feel I ought to pop down to pub to watch this, like the deciding session of an Ashes Test.

Brown whose wife did Rebekah's 40th party and slumber parties for all the little female murdochs. Let's make them eat themselves.
 
It fits if you think NI are doing an orchestrated drip-leak to move attention away from the real stuff. I don't buy that, it's too quick and too damaging. They're not in control of it - on any number of levels.
I agree. There's too much shit reigning down for this to be some sort of Machiavellian campaign, and the further into the gutter NI slides, the more likely previously intimidated witnesses/workers are going to come forward to spill the beans.
 
It fits if you think NI are doing an orchestrated drip-leak to move attention away from the real stuff. I don't buy that, it's too quick and too damaging. They're not in control of it - on any number of levels.
NI aren't drip-feeding this. This is all from the new Met investigation team, and friends (inc. Cressida Dick).
 
Rumour mill seems to be saying that Brown is going to reveal something about the Times. Hacking at the NI broadsheets too? Oh deary me, Mr Murdoch.
 
It fits if you think NI are doing an orchestrated drip-leak to move attention away from the real stuff. I don't buy that, it's too quick and too damaging.

Firstly, this is what the Met are claiming, not what is happening. It's not a stupid story from them.

I do think NI are on a damage limitation exercise, and floundering because none of these cunts have ever had to operate without near absolute power before. It is a plausible story from the Met, given the 'voluntary' disclosures from NI and the millions of allegedly deleted emails. They're trying to cut off the spread of the poison and limit it to 'one bad newsroom'. Cut it off at the level of criminal gossip-mongering and don't allow the trail to be followed all the way to Downing Street.

On the other hand, I can see the corrupt officers wanting to screw up the investigation, but not by naming themselves. NI's motivation for naming them would have to be either to distract from the more important details, or to fuck up future trials (of their own, as well as their bought off lackeys). This could just as easily be leaks from the inside, settling personal scores, or trying to take the heat off corruption at higher levels.

Whatever. The rats are turning on each other. It appears to be all good so far.
 
It fits if you think NI are doing an orchestrated drip-leak to move attention away from the real stuff. I don't buy that, it's too quick and too damaging. They're not in control of it - on any number of levels.

Indeed. They were leaking some stuff a while back though, stuff they had agreed with the police to keep quiet about until August. I think its possible that their failure to honour that agreement has caused the police to leak stuff in retaliation.

Unfortunately I've forgotten the detail of what it was, will try to find out.
 
I agree. There's too much shit reigning down for this to be some sort of Machiavellian campaign, and the further into the gutter NI slides, the more likely previously intimidated witnesses/workers are going to come forward to spill the beans.

Whilst that might be true, it should be pointed out that:

i) there is a strong incentive in not spilling the beans, namely that (for journalists at least) if you do fess up then noone in Fleet Street (the tabloid end of which, as we all should know, is as guilty as the NOTW is) is ever going to employ you in that field again. Look at what happened to Goodman, for instance - he did his time, kept quiet, got a big payoff and then was hired by the Daily Star.
ii) the issue is not so much about what comes out any more, its about who takes the blame for it. A selective series of leaks would be of benefit to those people who do not want to be blamed, which would - based at least on what has been released so far - tend to suggest that its not coming from the Met, nor is it coming from Coulson. This does tend to leave only one likely source.
 
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Whilst that might be true, it should be pointed out that:

i) there is a strong incentive in not spilling the beans, namely that (for journalists at least) if you do fess up then noone in Fleet Street (the tabloid end of which, as we all should know, is as guilty as the NOTW is) is ever going to employ you in that field again. Look at what happened to Goodman, for instance - he did his time, kept quiet, got a big payoff and then was hired by the Daily Star.
ii) the issue is not so much about what comes out any more, its about who takes the blame for it. A selective series of leaks would be of benefit to those people who do not want to be blamed, which would - based at least on what has been released so far - tend to suggest that its not coming from the Met, nor is it coming from Coulson. This does tend to leave only one likely source.

All good points, but what some people are smelling now is jounos turning on each other - the days where we don't do that to each other have been destroyed by the internet, this is different.
 
Meanwhile, Cameron launches the privatisation of the century, all public services to be opened to competition...


btw, no thread on the Southhampton strikes?
 
is the Guardian doing good? it reminds me of the time when that other paper did that expenses thing.... it was like, POW, POW, POW!! day after day and the paper sold millions of copies.
 
aye, the problem is the bad apples are right at the bottom of the barrel, underneath the rotten ones :)

Well that's the thing with rotten apples. If you leave them in the barrel, as has been done, they very soon turn the whole fucking barrel rotten.

In police terms, eventually they *all* get to know that some officers are committing crimes, and not reporting it makes them all complicit.
 
Meanwhile, Cameron launches the privatisation of the century, all public services to be opened to competition...


btw, no thread on the Southhampton strikes?

Just wait, people opposed to these actions are not going to not bother fighting because there's a media emphasis on something else.
 
Million things from people who should know saying Brown is only going to blow the bloody doors off.

It's the fact that he's going to be having a go at The Sunday Times, not a tabloid, that is whetting whistles, I think. People are itching for this to emphatically encompass all things Murdoch. Brown's credibility doesn't matter any more than Bryant's or Grant's.
 
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