Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[ymu]

Telling trio of headlines on the Graun website:

Miliband joins calls for Murdoch to drop bid
Clegg calls for Murdoch to drop BSkyB deal
Hunt seeks Ofcom advice over BSkyB takeover bid

Miliband pretending to have grown a spine, Clegg begging Murdoch to do the right thing, Hunt hiding behind the biggest things he can find.

 

[Streathamite]

I always feel a bit dirty after reading anything on the Daily Mail. Like I've been rummaging through someone's dustbin.

I daresay News international has a job for you, then!

 

[ymu]

not what I said *waves finger*

hopefully heads will roll, but unless there is a revolution, then the system will remain the same - just that Murdoch won't be able to influence it as much as before

Well, what are you saying then? Cos all I can see is "Labour aren't as bad as the Tories".

It's a chance to bring all of them down. There is no need to put out matresses to protect the current least worst option from a lethal landing. They can all fuck the fuck off.

 

[marty21]

Telling trio of headlines on the Graun website:


Miliband pretending to have grown a spine, Clegg begging Murdoch to do the right thing, Hunt hiding behind the biggest things he can find.

as was said earlier on here, Clegg didn't meet Murdoch prior to the election, so is not as in bed with him as Cameron is , Cameron needs Clegg and Hunt to do the deed that he can't do, or won't do.

 

[marty21]

Well, what are you saying then? Cos all I can see is "Labour aren't as bad as the Tories".

It's a chance to bring all of them down. There is no need to put out matresses to protect the current least worst option from a lethal landing. They can all fuck the fuck off.

again, not what I said

I didn't say anything about Labour not being as bad as the Tories - Brown/Blair both sucked up to Murdoch

the point is Milliband is free to attack Murdoch - Cameron is hamstrung

and bring them all down? It won't happen, there will be change , but not revolution

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Huh, apparently Rupert Murdoch's mum is still alive. She's 102, and is a renowned philanthropist.

/random fact

 

[butchersapron]

Right, we're moving onto computer hacking it looks like now.

 

[butchersapron]

Now we're talking:

#NOTW email shows Clive Goodman asked Andy #Coulson for cash to buy confidential directory of royal phone numbers, BBC's @Peston reveals

 

[Streathamite]

I don't suppose that includes you then Melamine? You know, tarting yourself around the BBC such as venting off on 'The Moral Maze' and scribbling for that tawdry rag. You should check out the word 'hypocrisy' you dumb fuck.

look on the good side; the comments following that article show that Mad mel has totally misjudged this one

 

[TruXta]

Any word on hacking the phones of 9/11 families? This needs to cross the Atlantic.

 

[Kaka Tim]

It's kind of giving.

You could argue that, at this rate of regular disclosure, the drip feed of revelations is orchestrated. It's maintaining the pressure on NI.

Today, it was the BBCs turn to get a nugget, yesterday it was the Telegraph, etc.

Yes I was wandering ealier in this thread as to how orchestrated this is. The Guardian have been sitting on this whilst waiting for a court case to finish. Were they lucky that the court case finsiehd just in time to stop the BskyB Bid? There are clearly cops working cloesly with the guardian on this - is there a group of people out to get Murdoch, or at least scuper the bid? Does it matter?

On a realted note - surely News international knew this was coming? Yet they seem to have repsonded like a particualrly disorganised set of headless chickens.

 

[butchersapron]

Any word on hacking the phones of 9/11 families? This needs to cross the Atlantic.

That one seems to be dying today - all that's came out was an approach to one person to do it, who refused - doesn't mean they didn't approach others or didn't do it, but it seems no one has anything that for now. The people going through this new cache of emails may well throw something up later though.

 

[editor]

The Mirror remains the only source, although it's got some coverage in the states.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/notw_tried_to_hack_911_victims.html

The Mail's getting in a froth about it too:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hones-September-11-victims-claims-ex-cop.html

 

[Kaka Tim]

That one seems to be dying today - all that's came out was an approach to one person to do it, who refused - doesn't mean they didn't approach others or didn't do it, but it seems no one has anything that for now. The people going through this new cache of emails may well throw something up later though.

I was thinking that the fact that none of the other media have mentioned the 9/11 stuff means its unsubstantiated, whilst all the other stuff is reliably sourced.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes I was wandering ealier in this thread as to how orchestrated this is. The Guardian have been sitting on this whilst waiting for a court case to finish. Were they lucky that the court case finsiehd just in time to stop the BskyB Bid? There are clearly cops working cloesly with the guardian on this - is there a group of people out to get Murdoch, or at least scuper the bid? Does it matter?

On a realted note - surely News international knew this was coming? Yet they seem to have repsonded like a particualrly disorganised set of headless chickens.

This new batch of emails were surrendered to some lawyers about three weeks ago (iirc) - they must have known it was coming from that point on at least. These lawyers are feeding this stuff regularly now, it would be useful to map who is getting it first. Peston seems to be #1 atm

 

[butchersapron]

Some nice shit stirring from the right

Andy Hayman was Assist. Comm. of Specialist Operations, including SO14 a.k.a. Royal Protection, 2005 - 2007. Now News Int. columnist.

 

[Streathamite]

I'm not really sure we're looking for a hierarchy of villainy here. They're all scum, and they're all going down. I couldn't care less which tribe they belong to.

tbh, Labour v 3.0 (new! squeaky clean! Red Ed!) are much less in the soup over this than cameron - he's the big scalp here, and he's the one who's mates with brooks, Murdoch (E. Ms), coulson, and the rest. Millibrow is nowt compared to that

 

[two sheds]

tbh, Labour v 3.0 (new! squeaky clean! Red Ed!) are much less in the soup over this than cameron - he's the big scalp here, and he's the one who's mates with brooks, Murdoch (E. Ms), coulson, and the rest. Millibrow is nowt compared to that

Yep, if Blair and Brown are caught cosying up to NI that's all a bit of a bonus, really

 

[Streathamite]

Now we're talking:

#NOTW email shows Clive Goodman asked Andy #Coulson for cash to buy confidential directory of royal phone numbers, BBC's @Peston reveals

You mean this? or this?

 

[Zabo]

The N.Y.T. haven't given it any coverage and they'd be first off the line. At a time like this I suppose one could say anything - at least it keeps NI under the glare of the media spotlight.

 

[Streathamite]

Yep, if Blair and Brown are caught cosying up to NI that's all a bit of a bonus, really

now that would be a lovely cherry on t'cake...

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Latest news from BBC, Robert Preston: Another policeman stole a green directory ( holds all royal info, addresses, emails, phone numbers etc) in 1997 wanted £1000 from Goodwin... then held by a solicitor Ken McDonald... he gave it to the exec of NI after 4 years.. who gave it to the police... news corp and police have known for at least 10 years....

 

[ymu]

tbh, Labour v 3.0 (new! squeaky clean! Red Ed!) are much less in the soup over this than cameron - he's the big scalp here, and he's the one who's mates with brooks, Murdoch (E. Ms), coulson, and the rest. Millibrow is nowt compared to that

If he wants Labour v3, he's going to have to dump New Labour, Blair, his brother, et al, right in it. I look forward to that happening, but I won't be holding my breath.

This new batch of emails were surrendered to some lawyers about three weeks ago (iirc) - they must have known it was coming from that point on at least. These lawyers are feeding this stuff regularly now, it would be useful to map who is getting it first. Peston seems to be #1 atm

Surrendered by NI? Peston is very close to Brooks too. It wouldn't be surprising to discover that Brooks is orchestrating the disclosure strategy. They're hiding something behind the flurry.

 

[marty21]

Latest news from BBC, Robert Preston: Another policeman stole a green directory ( holds all royal info, addresses, emails, phone numbers etc) in 1997 wanted £1000 from Goodwin... then held by a solicitor Ken McDonald... he gave it to the exec of NI after 4 years.. who gave it to the police... news corp and police have known for at least 10 years....

a grand? not the brightest of coppers then

 

[brimm]

Those mad eyes of Jeremy Hunt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14101866

 

[butchersapron]

If he wants Labour v3, he's going to have to dump New Labour, Blair, his brother, et al, right in it. I look forward to that happening, but I won't be holding my breath.


Surrendered by NI? Peston is very close to Brooks too. It wouldn't be surprising to discover that Brooks is orchestrating the disclosure strategy. They're hiding something behind the flurry.

Yes, surrendered to the met by NI lawyers on 20th June.

 

[Barking_Mad]

it's a right old incestuous gang bang...

More details are emerging about the garden party thrown by Matthew Freud and Elisabeth Murdoch in Oxfordshire last weekend, where guests included Rebekah Brooks, Alan Yentob and film director Tim Burton. It turns out BBC business editor Robert Peston, who is close to News International general manager Will Lewis, was also at the bash, resplendent in a peach cotton scarf. He was huddled together with Brooks, Lewis and James Murdoch for a good part of the evening, according to an eyewitness. Meanwhile, Jon Snow of Channel 4 News, which would break fresh revelations about Brooks later in the week, apparently cavorted on the dancefloor in embarrassing dad fashion. If the NI boss had known about the coverage Channel 4 News had planned she would have stuck a foot out as he strutted his stuff.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog+robert-peston

 

[butchersapron]

Here

2.38pm: This would be shocking news if it turns out to be true – but Thursday's closure of the News of the World was pretty shocking too.

Michael Wolff, the author of the Rupert Murdoch biography The Man who owns the News, has just tweeted that Murdoch is considering a "get out of Dodge strategy": selling all of News International. We will look into this now.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Seems like Americans are using the hash tag #MURDOCHGATE on twitter

 

[frogwoman]

Here

do you believe this ??! not saying you do, but isnt it stretching the credibility somewhat?

and even if it's true who has enough money to buy it?