Meat eaters are destroying the planet, warns WWF report

[Spymaster]

Is anyone pretending otherwise?

Well it’s being overlooked by at least one person. Meat eaters get called fragile carnists for years with nary a word mentioned but “vegigans” is jumped on instantly.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

If you want to communicate and share your fascinating insights, it's usually advisable to use words that actually exist and ones that people understand and don't find offensive/annoying/ugly/twatty. But if you want to keep on sounding like a twat parroting your makey-uppey word, feel free - and I'll judge you accordingly.

tbf if you're going to get your makey-uppy word to stick, you've got to keep using it. Blokey who coined 'vegan' knew that well enough.

 

[Larry Noppius]

tbf if you're going to get your makey-uppy word to stick, you've got to keep using it. Blokey who coined 'vegan' knew that well enough.

It's not even my makey-uppy word, I just took it from someone earlier in the thread when a term for the union of "vegan" and "vegetarian" was needed.

 

[two sheds]

Or you could flood the market with makey uppy words like vegegarian for gregarious vegetarians.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's not even my makey-uppy word, I just took it from someone earlier in the thread when a term for the union of "vegan" and "vegetarian" was needed.

That's the process. Blokey who is down in history as coining 'vegan' is thought to have taken it from a friend initially.

You may not have coined it, but you could just be the one who ensures its spread. I'd advise taking it out into the wider internet to see how it reproduces.

 

[Spymaster]

That's the process. Blokey who is down in history as coining 'vegan' is thought to have taken it from a friend initially.

You may not have coined it, but you could just be the one who ensures its spread. I'd advise taking it out into the wider internet to see how it reproduces.

I think JimW's advice was sound though and it should be spelled vegegan.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It's a huge pity that threads like this seems to draw so many dickheads there's loads on really interesting political discussions to be made - as JimW, CNT36 and Funky_monks were doing 20 or so pages back - but just too many wankers

This is the fate the befalls all threads about veganism and the meat industry sadly.

 

[Larry Noppius]

That's the process. Blokey who is down in history as coining 'vegan' is thought to have taken it from a friend initially.

You may not have coined it, but you could just be the one who ensures its spread. I'd advise taking it out into the wider internet to see how it reproduces.

That would be irrational. I used the term to save me keystrokes since I had to refer to the set of vegigans several times in a post and I didn't want to write out the full "vegans and vegetarians" every time. In order for it to save me keystrokes in this thread all that's required is that the people I converse to in this thread understand its definition. Me going out into the wider internet would cost me keystrokes whilst not saving me any here.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Is there any stench of negative connotations about the phrase "fragile carnists"?

Tbf carnists always makes me think carnal so it's a bit sexy really

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That would be irrational. I used the term to save me keystrokes since I had to refer to the set of vegigans several times in a post and I didn't want to write out the full "vegans and vegetarians" every time. In order for it to save me keystrokes in this thread all that's required is that the people I converse to in this thread understand its definition. Me going out into the wider internet would cost me keystrokes whilst not saving me any here.

You're not thinking big enough. You've a whole lifetime of keystrokes to consider. Get this to stick and you'll never have to write 'vegetarians and vegans' ever again.

There is also the public service aspect of this to consider. It's not just about your keystrokes.

 

[Spymaster]

This is the fate the befalls all threads about veganism and the meat industry sadly.

This isn't true at all. There've been some excellent discussions about both on here. Just not usually on threads specifically designed to needle another group of people with deliberately provocative titles.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Or you could flood the market with makey uppy words like vegegarian for gregarious vegetarians.

Vegegreggarian. Really into mushroom protein rolls

 

[JimW]

I think JimW's advice was sound though and it should be spelled vegegan.

Looks like a German past tense though. There is some existing term using an asterisk.

 

[Larry Noppius]

You're not thinking big enough. You've a whole lifetime of keystrokes to consider. Get this to stick and you'll never have to write 'vegetarians and vegans' ever again.

No it still doesn't work out to less keystrokes even with some generous assumptions.

There is also the public service aspect of this to consider.

No idea why I should care about how many keystrokes others want to save.

 

[WouldBe]

I refer you to my post above where I point out that in the unlikely event people stop eating meet livestock will still be required for eggs or milk.

I'm not sure vegigans eat eggs or drink milk.

 

[two sheds]

Looks like a German past tense though. There is some existing term using an asterisk.

Wouldn't that be vegangen?

 

[JimW]

Wouldn't that be vegangen?

"The vegans they go to their houses?" Conjugate the verb!

 

[two sheds]

vogans, only eat alien vegetable species

 

[editor]

New terms are being defined all the time which aren't in the dictionary. You know, like: let "vegigan" be the complement of "meat eater." That you still can't understand that definition, even when being linked to the definition of the term "complement" is hardly my fault. Perhaps ask someone to explain it to you?

Sorry to break the news to you, but no matter how many times you keep repeating it, that crappy, ugly world really isn't going to catch on in any kind of meaningful way.

 

[Big Bertha]

hmmm. Three words contracted into one. You might not like the term but you can't deny that it has the virtue of concision.

I think of myself as a daytime vegigan because I only eat vegetables (& tuna) during the daytime.

steaks in the evening though!

 

[editor]

I'm not sure vegigans eat eggs or drink milk.

Word fail already, then.

 

[Big Bertha]

I'm not sure vegigans eat eggs or drink milk.

Can we drink skimmed milk?
It’s not really milk.

 

[editor]

Can we drink skimmed milk?
It’s not really milk.

You're neither a vegetarian or a vegan so why are you asking?

 

[Larry Noppius]

I'm not sure vegigans eat eggs or drink milk.

The vegetarian ones do, don't they? If they don't eat meat they'd be vegigans anyway.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Possibly not relevant or appropriate but I always get confused between people who eat fish and american soft protestants

 

[WouldBe]

Yes you are. I find the word offensive because I know the dismissive, patronising context in which it's being employed, and the motives behind the people who are desperately trying to make it 'stick' here. If you want a grown-up debate, stop acting like a fucking infant and using makey-uppey words designed to belittle people with different views to you.

As it was me that coined the word vegigan I fully know how it was intended. As I've previously explained I have no problem with anyone who is vegetarian or vegan. Some vegigans on these boards have had tantrums in the past when someone has called them vegetarian when they are vegan and vice versa so it was coined to avoid the ballache of having to type vegetarian / vegan all the time to avoid upsetting the more sensitive of you. So don't go putting words ( or definitions ) in my mouth as it makes you look a dick.

 

[CNT36]

Well it’s being overlooked by at least one person. Meat eaters get called fragile carnists for years with nary a word mentioned but “vegigans” is jumped on instantly.

What I mean is no one is pretending it is a neutral descriptive term like Larry is.

 

[Big Bertha]

You're neither a vegetarian or a vegan so why are you asking?

I am a daytime vegigan! And I’m not asking you since you don’t believe in them

 

[editor]

As it was me that coined the word vegigan I fully know how it was intended. As I've previously explained I have no problem with anyone who is vegetarian or vegan. Some vegigans on these boards have had tantrums in the past when someone has called them vegetarian when they are vegan and vice versa so it was coined to avoid the ballache of having to type vegetarian / vegan all the time to avoid upsetting the more sensitive of you. So don't go putting words ( or definitions ) in my mouth as it makes you look a dick.

All those 'tantrums,' eh?

 

[two sheds]

vegifarian listens to a lot of reggae