Many dead in coordinated Paris shootings and explosions

[frogwoman]

Nbody has said its nothing to do with us though.

 

[JimW]

That's right. It's nothing to do with us. I wonder why they want to blow us up. So peculiar. They must be mad.

It's not that tricky. The historical and current actions of Western states can be part of it and particular things about an ideology and movement factors at the same time.

 

[Tony_LeaS]

Its a western world problem, it affects more than just us and the French.

 

[frogwoman]

Well not just western states ffs! Russia, China etc

 

[JimW]

Well not just western states ffs! Russia, China etc

Yes, I'm getting dragged down here.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

This is where moral relativism gets you. If no moral system is worse than any other, then it follows that all acts of killing are equally bad, hence goldenecitrone's belief that a British soldier who has commited no war crime is just as bad as Jihadi John. Pathetic.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Nbody has said its nothing to do with us though.

Just western policy? No other factors come in to play?

Why are they attacking France then? They hate the Eiffel Tower? The Sacre Coeur gets up their noses?

 

[frogwoman]

Go to bed.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Go to bed.

Wake up.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Wake up.

Fuck off

 

[bluescreen]

That's right. It's nothing to do with us. I wonder why they want to blow us up. So peculiar. They must be mad.

I said it before: propaganda. CNN, Fox, Sky, BBC, Al Jazeera, RT... I haven't been following tonight but suspect there might have been some coverage over and above what you'd get from Addis Ababa or Dakar. Added to which, some countries are less heavily monitored. It might be harder to carry out this sort of attack in Iran, say.

 

[JimW]

I said it before: propaganda. CNN, Fox, Sky, BBC, Al Jazeera, RT... I haven't been following tonight but suspect there might have been some coverage over and above what you'd get from Addis Ababa or Dakar. Added to which, some countries are less heavily monitored. It might be harder to carry out this sort of attack in Iran, say.

And of course they do attack elsewhere, two sectarian attacks in Beirut earlier today IIRC.

 

[frogwoman]

Tbh i suspect is might have a bigger support base in france than in some of the middle eastern/majority muslim states. i havent heard of any daesh plots involving iran. Im sure there have been some but internal terrorism doesnt seem to be a huge problem.

 

[goldenecitrone]

We sit here wondering why all these refugees are trying to get here. From Africa, the Middle East and Asia, all fleeing the war zones, the famine, the floods, the pestilence, the husk of the world that the West is happily making. And deluding ourselves that they are the mad ones, the desperate ones, the uncontrollable ones. Move along. Nothing to see here.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

That's right. It's nothing to do with us. I wonder why they want to blow us up. So peculiar. They must be mad.

I've just pausing my self-flagellation long enough to point out that you are using "they" in a way that others, err, others.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Fuck off

Smell the coffee!

 

[frogwoman]

A lot of the refugees will be fleeing daesh ffs

 

[goldenecitrone]

A lot of the refugees will be fleeing daesh ffs

A minority. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to refugees.

 

[frogwoman]

Of course we dont have to consider assads bombardments as,a reason to join them or drive support for them either.

 

[NoXion]

We sit here wondering why all these refugees are trying to get here. From Africa, the Middle East and Asia, all fleeing the war zones, the famine, the floods, the pestilence, the husk of the world that the West is happily making. And deluding ourselves that they are the mad ones, the desperate ones, the uncontrollable ones. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Nobody here is doing that. You're falling into the same trap as the bigots do in lumping together the terrorists with the refugees.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Nobody here is doing that. You're falling into the same trap as the bigots do in lumping together the terrorists with the refugees.

More pathetic platitudes. Whine on.

 

[NoXion]

More pathetic platitudes. Whine on.

Pointing out that terrorists and refugees aren't the same people is a "pathetic platitude" in your mind? Nice to know where you really stand.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Pointing out that terrorists and refugees aren't the same people is a "pathetic platitude" in your mind? Nice to know where you really stand.

Against cliché. You dullard.

 

[JimW]

Against cliché. You dullard.

From the author of such fresh gems as "you reap what you sow".

 

[NoXion]

Against cliché. You dullard.

Bit rich coming from someone doing the standard guilt-ridden Western liberal anti-imperialist routine.

 

[goldenecitrone]

From the author of such fresh gems as "you reap what you sow".[/QUOT

If you don't understand the difference between idiom and cliché? Try harder Sonny Jim.

 

[Dandred]

If you don't understand the difference between idiom and cliché?

What is the difference?

 

[goldenecitrone]

What is the difference?

A cliché is something repeated so often as to have no meaning. An idiom is an expression that is more than the sum of its parts.

 

[westcoast1]

Tbh i suspect is might have a bigger support base in france than in some of the middle eastern/majority muslim states. i havent heard of any daesh plots involving iran. Im sure there have been some but internal terrorism doesnt seem to be a huge problem.

Iran are fighting Daesh in Iraq and Syria. There population is majority Shia as well

 

[bimble]

Don't know what I came here for what i was hoping to find but thanks the golden lemon for living up to my lowest expectations.