Many dead in coordinated Paris shootings and explosions

[mk12]

This is just the liberal counterpart of ranting about Muslims.

It pisses me off just as much as the ranting about Muslims does. What kind of person reads about this sort of event and, without feeling any anger towards the murderers, immediately tries to find a way to blame the West?

frogwoman: I agree with your points on this by the way. The idea that it's all the West's fault is ridiculous.

 

[frogwoman]

We reap what we sow.

Those yezidi women and shia commuters in iraq were asking for it then.

 

[frogwoman]

ISIS bombed Beirut today as well. They all deserved it too obviously. 'We reap what we sow'. FFS

 

[DrRingDing]

Kalashnikovs and explosive suicide belts in the concert hall apparently.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Beyond racism? What do you think its about then? Beyond the disenfranchised and the easily manipulated?

This is an attack on Europe as much as it is France. These fuckers will attack anywhere they can cause an impact. France's racism is one aspect that feeds into it but it's not the defining one. Would you be saying the same about Belgium if that planned attack earlier this year hadn't been foiled?

 

[mk12]

We reap what we sow.

I wonder if you'd have the same view if one of your family members had been killed by these cunts.

 

[DrRingDing]

Chucking their toys out as they're about to lose their beloved Raqqa.

 

[bluescreen]

It's a particular form of western delusion of grandeur that takes upon itself responsibility for things for which it's not responsible.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Those yezidi women and shia commuters in iraq were asking for it then.

I'm neither yezidi nor shia, as you well know. Stop this pathetic insinuation.

 

[goldenecitrone]

I wonder if you'd have the same view if one of your family members had been killed by these cunts.

Don't be so fucking absurd.

 

[frogwoman]

I'm neither yezidi nor shia, as you well know. Stop this pathetic insinuation.

Its not an insinuation. Saying that 160 people killed by religious loons is 'reaping what we sow' could be applied to those groups by ISIS and no doubt they have already thought up a reason why it is.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Its not an insinuation. Saying that 160 people killed by religious loons is 'reaping what we sow' could be applied to those groups by ISIS and no doubt they have already thought up a reason why it is.

Western policy in the Middle East is reaping blowback. If you can't see that, then I can't show you.

 

[frogwoman]

You've totally missed my point ffs

 

[bluescreen]

IS bombs and strafes Paris. Over a hundred killed, many wounded.
Sensitive liberal type: Oh what have we done wrong to provoke this? We must atone for our sins.

Yanno, these guys have some agency. They aren't automata.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Western policy in the Middle East is reaping blowback. If you can't see that, then I can't show you.

Just western policy? No other factors come in to play?

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Western policy in the Middle East is reaping blowback. If you can't see that, then I can't show you.

Denial of the agency of non-Western actors detected.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Just western policy? No other factors come in to play?

Many factors come into play. We have a hand in it. I'm surprised we haven't been more burnt than we should have. Luck I guess.

 

[bluescreen]

It's like worship of ancient deities whom you must appease.

 

[goldenecitrone]

You can see why some hate us. This whistling in the wind, all innocent, nothing to do with us guv. I'd blow you up myself, just to watch your smug grins disappear in the sulphur.

 

[bluescreen]

You can see why some hate us. This whistling in the wind, all innocent, nothing to do with us guv. I'd blow you up myself, just to watch your smug grins disappear in the sulphur.

You don't get it, do you? It's not all about 'us'. They hate women, music, free speech, people who dress in the wrong clothes. people who follow the wrong prophets. But they know the power of propaganda.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

You can see why some hate us. This whistling in the wind, all innocent, nothing to do with us guv. I'd blow you up myself, just to watch your smug grins disappear in the sulphur.

So where would your blaming of the murdering, fanatical fuckwits begin then? You obviously don't blame them in Paris so where on the map does it stop being all the west's fault and it starts being the fault of daesh?

 

[JimW]

You can see why some hate us. This whistling in the wind, all innocent, nothing to do with us guv. I'd blow you up myself, just to watch your smug grins disappear in the sulphur.

Insights into your personal psychodrama don't tell us anything about the dynamics that have brought the situation to its present pass.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Insights into your personal psychodrama don't tell us anything about the dynamics that have brought the situation to its present pass.

If you are expecting to find enlightenment on the internet, then you are a fool.

 

[frogwoman]

civilians in beriut, people travelling in rush hour traffic, bangladeshi bloggers who are careless enough to talk about atheism all reaping what they sow eh.

 

[goldenecitrone]

civilians in beriut, people travelling in rush hour traffic, bangladeshi bloggers who are careless enough to talk about atheism all reaping what they sow eh.

No. The state, armed to the teeth, descending on countries to blow the shit out of them. And there are consequences. You know this.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

civilians in beriut, people travelling in rush hour traffic, bangladeshi bloggers who are careless enough to talk about atheism all reaping what they sow eh.

If the west hadn't invented the internet then Bangladeshis wouldn't blog on it so it's all the west's fault if they get killed for doing so.

 

[mk12]

If the west hadn't invented the car then there wouldn't be rush hour traffic for the anti-imperialists to target etc.

 

[bluescreen]

If the west hadn't invented the car then there wouldn't be rush hour traffic for the anti-imperialists to target etc.

True. And if they hadn't invented teh interwebs we'd know nothing of any of this and there'd be no incentive to propagate it.
ETA: Whoops, I see Dr Carrot got there first.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

If the Romans hadn't invented roads then... Etc. I'm going to bed. Night all.

 

[goldenecitrone]

That's right. It's nothing to do with us. I wonder why they want to blow us up. So peculiar. They must be mad.