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[eoin_k]

The only way to that you could see it any other way is to exculpate it is by way of arguing that there is some special Koranic dispensation...

You got them fancy lawyer words, I'll give you that Diamond. You just need to work on fitting them into coherent sentences. Can I suggest that we both go to our separate beds before we make any more of a mess of this thread.

 

[Diamond]

No-one's seeking to exculpate IS. They're just not fascists is all. They don't even wear jackboots.

Right...

Genocide based on a perceived category - tick

Slavery - tick

Total world domination - tick

Interestingly, an economy that is based on conquest but fundamentally weak - tick

An imagined social group that will prevail - tick

Goebbels style media manipulation - tick

The last, is perversely the most important

 

[8115]

Do you know, I was literally wondering just the other day if IS would count as fascists.

 

[phildwyer]

Right...

Genocide based on a perceived category - tick

Slavery - tick

Total world domination - tick

Interestingly, an economy that is based on conquest but fundamentally weak - tick

An imagined social group that will prevail - tick

Goebbels style media manipulation - tick

The last, is perversely the most important

The last is practiced by everybody. The penultimate is more characteristic of socialism than of fascism. None of the others apply to both.

 

[Diamond]

But it all it starts really with the imagination of a special community

 

[butchersapron]

But it all it starts really with the imagination of a special community

I knew it was the Jews again.

 

[phildwyer]

But it all it starts really with the imagination of a special community

Like the vanguard of the proletariat?

 

[Diamond]

I knew it was the Jews again.

Shia

 

[butchersapron]

Shia

Ah isis, the famous sunni Shia.

 

[Diamond]

Come on - you know that IS's first enemy is and has always have been Shia, not the "West"

 

[butchersapron]

Come on - you know that IS's first enemy is and has always have been Shia, not the "West"

Diamond, you have missed the point by a mile.

 

[Diamond]

What do you folks make of the "grey zone"?

 

[frogwoman]

ISIS aren't fash, that's kind of the whole point.

 

[eoin_k]

What do you folks make of the "grey zone"?

You're either with it or against it in my book.

 

[J Ed]

Kurdish Stalin says fuck you Daesh

 

[phildwyer]

Kurdish Stalin

Now that's a fascist.

 

[J Ed]

Now that's a fascist.

You think the Peshmerga forces are fascist now?

 

[phildwyer]

You think the Peshmerga forces are fascist now?

Stalinist, as you said. And I do consider Stalinism a type of fascism. The main similarity being that they kill all socialists.

 

[J Ed]

Stalinist, as you said. And I do consider Stalinism a type of fascism. The main similarity being that they kill all socialists.

He looks like Stalin and he's Kurdish, that's the joke

 

[phildwyer]

He looks like Stalin and he's Kurdish, that's the joke

I know. Doesn't alter my point. Apo too.

 

[frogwoman]

Wtf how do you know he is a stalinist?

 

[frogwoman]

He's got a daesh flag on the ground, we dont know anything about his politics apart from not liking daesh.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

The really important question that goes unanswered here for me is how much her house was worth.

I wanna know if she was milking our benefit system to fund her boozy lifestyle.

 

[phildwyer]

Wtf how do you know he is a stalinist?

Do you mean Apo or the Kurdish Stalin? If the former, there's little dispute. If the latter, he's serving the former.

 

[frogwoman]

I mean the kurdish stalin. We dont know anything about him except that he hates daesh and is in the peshmerga

 

[DrRingDing]

Bob Geldof tells millennials their hands are stained with blood

Bit rich considering it was his mate Tony that had a significant role to play in the rise of this nonsense.

 

[phildwyer]

I mean the kurdish stalin. We dont know anything about him except that he hates daesh and is in the peshmerga

And the peshmerga is allied/subservient to the PKK, which is bog-standard Stalinist.

 

[phildwyer]

dp

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Bob Geldof tells millennials their hands are stained with blood

Bit rich considering it was his mate Tony that had a significant role to play in the rise of this nonsense.

What a colossal cock end.

 

[leanderman]

I think it is well recorded that on the Eastern front during WW2, amphetamines were a big deal amongst the Wehrmacht and the SS.

Something to take note of, I think.

Panzer chocolate