Manchester United 19/20: You can't win anything with kids (revisited)
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chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I'm not excited about the prospect of Poch tbh.
I mean he's obviously a good manager. But I'm not sure he'd thrive at United right now.
I still like Ole. Sure, he's not good enough but given the doubts around anyone doing much better with current owners I'd rather have Ole trying to get the mythical United way back than some random "name" coming in every couple of years and failing.
Now...if we could get whoever is the Klopp of 2021 then that would be great. I don't know who that is though and I doubt the Glazers do either.
I mean he's obviously a good manager. But I'm not sure he'd thrive at United right now.
I still like Ole. Sure, he's not good enough but given the doubts around anyone doing much better with current owners I'd rather have Ole trying to get the mythical United way back than some random "name" coming in every couple of years and failing.
Now...if we could get whoever is the Klopp of 2021 then that would be great. I don't know who that is though and I doubt the Glazers do either.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Poch’s big problem would be to install some tactical nous into a team that has only one mode which is to play on the counter attack . The second would be about having to stick or twist with a squad that doesn’t have the work ethic to play the way he’d want but certainly has the talent to do so .
Can’t see United improving under Ole tbh ( depends on what Utds aspirations are ) but Poch would want a financial commitment to invest in new players and he might well have sights on Real Madrid tbh
steveo87
22/11/2022 - got a maths joke.
To be fair, Klopp is the Klopp of 2021.
Moyes was hindered by insubordination from his senior players, and maybe a little too much reliance on the wide-men whipping crosses in to... no-one.
Moan-inho, though a an indignant and nasty bloke, won stuff.
LVG could have been given more time. Should have been given more time.
Moyes giving Rooney a 5 year contract after Ferguson had tried to get rid of him for a while was when a wheel fell off. Ferdinand and Vidic were irreplaceable. As were Carrick, Scholes, Evra, and even Park Ji-sung. They don’t have a player like him anymore, a player every fucking team needs. Completely without ego and absolutely committed to the team. Buying Pogba back, embarrassingly both then and even more now.
Some of these mistakes were avoidable, some weren’t,
But I don’t see a talented squad there, I see a shabbily drafted unit of mercenaries with the odd academy lad and the messiah himself, young Marcus.
he’s probably wondering ‘should I watch something else on Netflix and have another glass of wine? Or call it a night?’
or maybe he’s dropped acid in order to reach deep within his mind, to work out exactly how to have Wan-Bissaka and Like Shaw drifting into central midfield to implore a front press that see’s the whole unit working together and getting Pogba to stay inside that left-sided channel where he was so good playing for Juventus.
oh wait - maybe it WAS Pirlo making him look better than he actually is. Just like all those great playmakers do. Scholes, Silva, Veratti, Busquets. Should never have brought him back, never mind the net-loss.
Exclusive: Manchester United approach Mauricio Pochettino about becoming manager
Man United are interested in appointing Mauricio Pochettino as their next manager after Ole Gunnar Solskjaer suffered his fourth defeat in nine Premier League and Champions League games.
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
This. As a non-United fan, I still think it still counts as a big job, but only just, so it would have to be the only offer to him.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
How have managers been treated like shit at Old Trafford?
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
I don't think the fairly well publicised lining up of a new manager while Jose was still in the job was well managed, accepted that as ever Jose play ball either
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
True but not unique to Manchester Utd.
the divs in charge wanted the PR hype that City v United would come along with it also being Pep v Jose. Should never have gotten rid of Van Gaal.
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
Van Gaal thinks he was treated badly:
Manchester United: Louis van Gaal on his sacking, his legacy and life in retirement
Louis van Gaal revisits his sacking by Manchester United, reflects on his legacy in management and discusses his new life in retirement.
www.bbc.co.uk
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
None of these decisions particularly single out Man United from other clubs as having a treated their managers like shit tbh. Post Busby and pre Ferguson Man Utd went through loads of managers.
Most clubs have the same balancing act over transfers ie what the current manager wants and what the club sees as an investment. Every now and again theres a purple patch when managers and clubs not only agree with the transfer targets but hit a rich seam in availability, price and value. Man Utd may not have been as astute as some clubs in the transfer market and some of their managers have wasted the talent of some excellent players ie Di Maria under Van Gal. There's one thing you can't criticise the club for and that is their cheque book
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The Guardians Jamie Jackson was still rooting for him a week ago
Diaries, astuteness and work ethic: the making of Solskjær the manager | Jamie Jackson
In an extract from his new book about Ole Gunnar Solskjær, Jamie Jackson finds a future foretold during the Norwegian’s time as a Manchester United striker
Tales uncovered from Solskjær's past point to a bright future | Jamie Jackson
Voices gathered from Cardiff and Molde in writing a biography of Manchester United’s manager reveal much about the man
Di Maria quickly realised he didn’t want to be there, as did Sanchez. When an institution is failing - top down - every cunt starts to wing-it.
The Guardians Jamie Jackson was still rooting for him a week ago
Diaries, astuteness and work ethic: the making of Solskjær the manager | Jamie Jackson
In an extract from his new book about Ole Gunnar Solskjær, Jamie Jackson finds a future foretold during the Norwegian’s time as a Manchester United strikerwww.theguardian.com
Tales uncovered from Solskjær's past point to a bright future | Jamie Jackson
Voices gathered from Cardiff and Molde in writing a biography of Manchester United’s manager reveal much about the man
when the fuck wouldn’t he root for Yanited?
Berbatov predicts Solskjaer could be sacked after Everton vs Man United
Manchester United are looking to avoid a third defeat in the space of a week when they tackle Everton at Goodison Park.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Try looking at how United treated their managers before Ferguson
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
author of the never ending series 'Is xxxx the final piece in the Man Utd jigsaw'
Same as now, like shite.
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