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Manchester United 19/20: You can't win anything with kids (revisited)

Preston North End?

Don't be silly.

Brora went through the 2014/15 season unbeaten in the Scottish Highland League. Their goal difference of 121 was more than twice that of the runners up
 
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Wonder if any manager has had such a contrast of a good run through to getting the job on a permanent basis, followed by shite, followed by a longish unbeaten run in the league and back to purest dramatic runny shite again the last fortnight?
 
I wonder how long Ole will stay in the job for. Clearly not up to it in the long-term and not going to be the manager that takes them back to the top, but the United board will probably want a 6th place finish as evidence of this before actually doing anything.
 
Cavani signed. I guess he passed his medical by:

Putting his socks on by himself
Walking up the stairs unaided
Walking his dog
 
I wonder how long Ole will stay in the job for. Clearly not up to it in the long-term and not going to be the manager that takes them back to the top, but the United board will probably want a 6th place finish as evidence of this before actually doing anything.

Rumours are circulating that they're sounding out Pochettino.
 
Rumours are circulating that they're sounding out Pochettino.

"sounding out" is exactly the sort of idiocy that Woodward would do, of course

"Hi Mauricio, we've just been webbed by Spurs at home, our manager got Cardiff relegated and we have spent the past four months unsettling our best players. Would you be interested in coming to manage us if we sack Ole? No I won't be resigning."
 
Told ya’s.

May have been shit boring under Van Gaal, and yeah his methods of dealing with younger players was out of touch. But at least he commanded respect. As in other ways did Mourinho.

The club now is being run as a de facto middling business but with all debts leveraged on the name.
 
Told ya’s.

May have been shit boring under Van Gaal, and yeah his methods of dealing with younger players was out of touch. But at least he commanded respect. As in other ways did Mourinho.

The club now is being run as a de facto middling business but with all debts leveraged on the name.

All of the United managers since Moyes have pretty much found their own ways to be uniquely terrible. It's almost impressive.
 
All of the United managers since Moyes have pretty much found their own ways to be uniquely terrible. It's almost impressive.

Moyes was undermined by egotistical twats like Ferdinand. Didn’t put the required effort in as a professional should. Cunt - with his shotgun celebration a month after speaking out about gun crime in London.

Van Gaal came in and beasted them from the start, coming off the back of Moyes the players thought they owned the dressing room. Yeah maybe he wasn’t up to breaking down and compartmentalising a Prem League game and have it lead to goals. Still won a cup and got us into Europe. Cunts sacked him on the day of Cup Final win to throw their spuds into a willy waving contest cos City got Guardiola.

Both managers could and should have been given more time.
 
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Moyes was undermined by egotistical tests like Ferdinand. Didn’t put the required effort in as a professional should. Cunt - with his shotgun celebration a month after speaking out about gun crime in London.

Van Gaal came in and beasted them from the start, coming off the back of Moyes the players thought they owned the dressing room. Yeah maybe he wasn’t up to breaking down and compartmentalising a Prem League game and have it lead to goals. Still won a cup and got us into Europe. Cunts sacked him on the day of Cup Final win to throw their spuds into a willy waving contest cos City got Guardiola.

Both managers could and should have been given more time.

Moyes was a dreadful choice to replace SAF and the players largely turned on him when that became evidence after continuous bad results. It's a manager's job to motivate players and the buck generally falls on them when things start to go wrong.

LVG had an alright first season but United were absolutely dire to watch in 15-16, horrendous style with an incredibly low number of goals that he refused to adapt for some reason. Merely getting United "into Europe" should be a basic requirement considering the size of the club, not an indicator of success. Especially when United got swiftly booted out the CL in 15-16 anyway.
 
Moyes was a dreadful choice to replace SAF and the players largely turned on him when that became evidence after continuous bad results. It's a manager's job to motivate players and the buck generally falls on them when things start to go wrong.

LVG had an alright first season but United were absolutely dire to watch in 15-16, horrendous style with an incredibly low number of goals that he refused to adapt for some reason. Merely getting United "into Europe" should be a basic requirement considering the size of the club, not an indicator of success. Especially when United got swiftly booted out the CL in 15-16 anyway.

He stabilised us though, no institution goes 27 years with the boss, loses them, and carries on as usual. Unless the boss was inept at their job for those 27 years.
 
He stabilised us though, no institution goes 27 years with the boss, loses them, and carries on as usual. Unless the boss was inept at their job for those 27 years.

I'm not sure he stabilised United all that much - 7th/8th was about as bad as it was ever likely to get for United. When he left they'd scraped a 5th place finish with absolutely horrendous football to boot.

His job - when he came in - was to get United competing for titles again. He had one of the biggest wage budgets in Europe and spent money you'd expect someone with title ambitions to spend. Instead he could barely get them into a CL spot.
 
I thought Ferguson wanted Moyes to replace him when he retired, so he did? There's no magic bullet of guaranteed success is there? Doesn't look good for Solskjaer from the outside.
 
I thought Ferguson wanted Moyes to replace him when he retired, so he did? There's no magic bullet of guaranteed success is there? Doesn't look good for Solskjaer from the outside.
Yep, he did. Don't know whether he saw somebody in his own image or just didn't want anybody who was any good.
 
I saw enough well drilled Everton sides, useful and productive in possession and able to organise into shape when not in possession when he managed them. I thought he could have done a job but then that transfer saga with that midfielder (forget his name), making Rooney captain when he should have been out of the door. And the fact he was left with an ageing back line, a fading Carrick, and nothing on the wings. Always seemed doomed. Took some stones for him to even take the job tbh. His West Ham looking good this year so far.
 
PSG is a hard game to call :hmm:

Both clubs have the budgets and (on paper) the players to win the CL but are not consistent enough.

Good one for the neutral :)
 
Yeah. On paper they do.

Same as Citeh. The players and money they have should have got them to the final if not the trophy.

Money, absolutely.

But lindelof? Maguire? McTominay? Fred? Shaw? Wan-bissaka? Tuanzebe? Lindgard?

It's not exactly Xavi & Iniesta is it? Like I wouldn't want us to sign them, and we're nowhere near the Champion's League, let alone winning the thing. Who's decent there? Fernandes? Rashford, but even he isn't exactly prolific. Martial is decent but he's not top quality. Pogba? Greenwood has got potential. Is that it? Look at that team!
 
Money, absolutely.

But lindelof? Maguire? McTominay? Fred? Shaw? Wan-bissaka? Tuanzebe? Lindgard?

It's not exactly Xavi & Iniesta is it? Like I wouldn't want us to sign them, and we're nowhere near the Champion's League, let alone winning the thing. Who's decent there? Fernandes? Rashford, but even he isn't exactly prolific. Martial is decent but he's not top quality. Pogba? Greenwood has got potential. Is that it? Look at that team!
Yeah I know.

If they could get Pogba and a few others to play up they would be a different side.
 
PSG is a hard game to call :hmm:

Both clubs have the budgets and (on paper) the players to win the CL but are not consistent enough.

Good one for the neutral :)

Has embarrassing written all over it and that's before kick off.

Of course I wish all Man Utd fans a peaceful evening.
 
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