tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
Oh yeah. Christ. Capitalism huh.
Man United 2021-24, 'Best of the Rest'
- Thread starter Wilf
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First time I've watched United in a very long time. Looks like I chose a good one. The goalkeeper needs to go, nowhere near the quality you'd expect at the club but there's a couple of decent players there (Garnarncho and Fernandes). Rashford looks like his fame has gone to head a bit, having tantrums when the ball wasn't played to him etc. They're not passing it to you because you're not very good Marcus.
I hope they give ten Hag a bit more time and let him clear out of some the deadwood there.
I hope they give ten Hag a bit more time and let him clear out of some the deadwood there.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Villas 2nd half performance was one of the worst I've seen this season tbh
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
Yeah man, so do I.
People forget Ten Hag turned up and finished 3rd last season and won a cup. And we’re still above Newcastle, Chelsea amongst others with managers who were the second coming and have spent a fortune. Getting rid of the manager would be madness - he’s not the problem. Let’s hope Ratcliffe and co get the diabolical transfer strategy in shape.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Agree with that, in the sense that even with some adults in charge it's going to be a long job getting the club anywhere near. Ten Hag is at the point where he'd be sacked in normal circumstances and he doesn't seem to have a clear philosophy, though as you say, no obvious point in sacking him. Only thing is when things get so bad, it's fairly rare that the manager who oversaw the continuing shitshow is the one who brings it back. Suspect he'll be gone at or before the end of the end of the season and an overseas bod in.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Ratcliffe took over the biggest team in cycling and since then they have bombed and are now years behind the top ranked team... UAE Team Emirates
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I don’t disagree. Hard to see why it’s been so all over the shop this year after a positive start last year. There have been a lot of injuries but the 1st half yesterday was far worse than it should have been considering the players still available.
The maddest thing is we’re still 7th.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
My favourite bit of Dion Dublin commentary was when I was listening to Man City-Liverpool on the radio and he was going on about how what both teams were lacking was a physical presence who could hold the ball up up front - basically that in his view what they needed wasn't Sergio Aguero or Mohamed Salah, it was Dion Dublin.
Ten Hag truly is a terrible man/ego manager. Both Ronaldo and Sancho are world class. And both gone. Ronaldo setting records in his new league and Sancho was a 50 goal a season scorer before he came under ten Hag's management. They're both utter twats. But it's a business. You need goals.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Ronaldo scoring bucketloads in a retirement home of a league, and Sancho has barely scored 50 in his entire career let alone per season.
Ten Hag is a lousy man manager and completely out of his depth though, I'll give you that.
Ten Hag is a lousy man manager and completely out of his depth though, I'll give you that.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, I don't think Ten Hag is going to succeed at United, though we'll get a better sense now he gas a few players back. But absolutely right on those two.
GarveyLives
Well-Known Member
More on the culpability of Onana, Sancho, Rashford and of course, Pogba, in this analysis:
Why Man United’s midfield chaos began in the days of Alex Ferguson
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Shouldn't have bought him back. The only way it works is with the team set up to allow him to score. No manager could put up with that or his tantrums.
Yeh they should. When they're that good. He's proving useless at managing the egos of his superstars. Fergie was a master of it. This guy is definitely not.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Probably true about Ferguson v TH, but Ronaldo at his age was never a good idea. It isn't just about how many he scores, it's the restrictions he puts on the team. It was telling that City didn't buy him.
surreybrowncap
“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand"
What superstars do we actually have...?
Ronaldo was always intent on going to Saudi anyway despite that awful Piers Morgan interview..
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Worth remembering that while he got 18 goals in 30 league games 2021-22, he only got 1 in 10 the following year (though admittedly' some of those were as sub). And the set up was pretty much 'you stand there in front of goal Mr Ronaldo and we'll run round and pass it to you'.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Who needs stars when you're getting marginal gains?
surreybrowncap
“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand"
No idea what you are on about?
Probably a cycling thing....
Oh and superstars was in italics...
