Sure, but it's a redistribution of power from writer to reader; 'media' to public; producer to consumer. Not a complete one by any means, perhaps not even a very big one, but enough to be significant. Surely a redistribution of (some) power in the direction of the majority is in itself a democratising influence?
Mail: a truly despicable article ("nothing 'natural' about Stephen Gately's death")
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Sure, but it's a redistribution of power from writer to reader; 'media' to public; producer to consumer. Not a complete one by any means, perhaps not even a very big one, but enough to be significant. Surely a redistribution of (some) power in the direction of the majority is in itself a democratising influence?
Kanda
Diving wanker
From the comments:
lolz!!
I don't necessarily think so because I suspect that these internet campaigns represent nothing more than special interest groups, albeit ones that may be morally in the right, as opposed to a majority consensus (which is what democracy drives at).
Also, Finkelstein is great. It's a pity he's a Tory.
trashpony
Hag
OK - is there anything else that needs to go on the group today because I've got a cold and want to go and do something else now
I'll do it if missfran has a life, given I don't
Oh hang on
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
Email from Nestle
FINGERS,
Thank you for your email to the Nestlé Press Office, below is our statement. This has also been put up on the home page of our website:
Nestlé has no influence on the editorial content of the publications in which it advertises. The views expressed in the article are from the author and are not shared by Nestlé.
The Company has consistently emphasised the importance of mutual respect and tolerance, regardless of culture, religion or nationality. This a core Company value as expressed in the Nestlé Corporate Business Principles.
http://www.nestle.co.uk/Home
FINGERS,
Thank you for your email to the Nestlé Press Office, below is our statement. This has also been put up on the home page of our website:
Nestlé has no influence on the editorial content of the publications in which it advertises. The views expressed in the article are from the author and are not shared by Nestlé.
The Company has consistently emphasised the importance of mutual respect and tolerance, regardless of culture, religion or nationality. This a core Company value as expressed in the Nestlé Corporate Business Principles.
http://www.nestle.co.uk/Home
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
john x
Well-Known Member
I was just trying to point out one irony by being ironic myself.
Should have known that it doesn't work on the interweb.
john x
I was just trying to point out one irony by being ironic myself.
Should have known that it doesn't work on the interweb.
john x
But you had pointed it out earlier on the thread, retracted it, then did it again.
Like i said...
Badger Kitten
oof
SKY news just had it on again, it's part of the Gately package,
said family were aware of it, close friend of Stephen and family said they were 'very disappointed' that 'on the day before his funeral as Ireland grieved a favourite son' someone had sat down and deliberately written something that had caused 'so much offence', SKY jaourno read out Moir's statement and then reiterated that it 'had caused great anger here in Dublin'.
Sky also bigged up that PCC had 800 complaints already, of a 3 minute piece it was the last 45 seconds which is pretty strong, for a news column piece.
said family were aware of it, close friend of Stephen and family said they were 'very disappointed' that 'on the day before his funeral as Ireland grieved a favourite son' someone had sat down and deliberately written something that had caused 'so much offence', SKY jaourno read out Moir's statement and then reiterated that it 'had caused great anger here in Dublin'.
Sky also bigged up that PCC had 800 complaints already, of a 3 minute piece it was the last 45 seconds which is pretty strong, for a news column piece.
rikwakefield
Born to be Mild
Yeah, women are shit, aren't they?
john x
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
That is true, but then interest groups always tend to shout louder than most, whether on the internet or in real life. In any case, to me the phrase 'special interest groups' implies a degree of organisation, whereas what's happened today is spontaneous. Nor is it only gay people who've taken umbrage at Jan Moir's comments by any means. In fact, mcuh as it might be true in some cases, I don't think you can pin today's 'campaign' on any particular interest group: it's just people exercising their right of reply, which the internet makes it easier to do.
5t3IIa
Registered User
I'll do it if missfran has a life, given I don't
Oh hang on
It's on.
trashpony
Hag
Nestle - promoting the right of women everywhere, regardless of access to clean water, to bottle rather than breasfeed
xes
F.O.A.D
did you expect anything more from this shower of cunts?Nestle said this with a straight face
Badger Kitten
oof
What special interest groups?
I'm not a special interest group and nor is 5t3IIa, but that didn't stop us setting up a FB page and publicising it. Purely because like other people posting here we were disgusted by the article, and the first time I'd ever been in contact with 5t3IIa on a one on one basis was today, via PM, because of this thread.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Has anyone noticed that all the adverts have gone from that page.
That is actually much more important than just moving them to the bottom of the page.
Well done BK
john x
Yes, at about 3pm this afternoon.... along with everyone else
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Result. 
In the same week that twitterers beat down the racist murderers of Trafigura and their Carter Ruck accomplices aswell.
In the same week that twitterers beat down the racist murderers of Trafigura and their Carter Ruck accomplices aswell.
john x
Well-Known Member
Yes, at about 3pm this afternoon.... along with everyone else
I still have a browser open from 5.30pm with the ads still there.
john x
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I still have a browser open from 5.30pm with the ads still there.
john x
screenshot it for some shameage
rikwakefield
Born to be Mild
The internet could well be the most important tool in the upcoming social revolution.
I'm amazed that The Mail had the temerity to publish Moir's mealy mouthed comeback attack apology
My gut feel is that's it worth shifting the line of attack to beyond Moir. Who were the editorial goons who passed this article the first time around and then allowed this second statement to entirely miss the point and cause more offence.
My gut feel is that's it worth shifting the line of attack to beyond Moir. Who were the editorial goons who passed this article the first time around and then allowed this second statement to entirely miss the point and cause more offence.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
sterling observance of the rule that a a paragraph should be readable there.
The BBC has a story on its website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8311499.stm
john x
Well-Known Member
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