ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
You have a remarkably short memory, past caring.
We'd all be in the same camp if ymu had her way.
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Gromit
International Man of Misery
Btw I'd like to support Ymu is stating that accepting drinks has nothing to do with a lack of self respect.
It does however display a lack of respect for men and ideals of the sexes treating each other as equals. Reinforcing the little woman who needs to be looked after by the man.
Funny how I'm a sexist for not supporting this sexist behaviour.
It does however display a lack of respect for men and ideals of the sexes treating each other as equals. Reinforcing the little woman who needs to be looked after by the man.
Funny how I'm a sexist for not supporting this sexist behaviour.
You're not a sexist for that, Gromit.
You're a sexist for all the other things you say.
Louloubelle
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ymu
It's not the point you were trying to make that I disagree with.
Obviously I agree that if a woman has sex with a man in a public place that this does not mean that other men can just turn up and rape her.
It was the language that you used that I feel disrespected you and other women.
Why on earth would you describe the act of rape as "having a poke"?
It seems a misogynist, primitive and insufficiently weighty a terms to describe rape IMO.
The very sad fact is that many group rapes actually start when a young woman has consensual sex in a public place (often because she and her partner are very young and don't have their own place) and then as the young man leaves his friends arrive and the girls is expected to service them also. Some young girls do not even appreciate that this is rape and simply comply out of fear or out of a wish to be accepted. Referring to such activity as "having a poke" is fairly disgusting and misogynist IMO.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I bet he'd buy me a drink
Providing you didn't want the vote too.
Louloubelle
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Gromit
International Man of Misery
Stick to the argument in hand please. Not what you think I'm saying based on other threads where I may or may not have been playing devil's advocate.
As someone else said earlier actions speak louder than words.
There is a board poster you can speak to if you want evidence of how I acted in the real world when she was tramatised by rape and going to court over it (not mentioning names as its not my place, despite her having talked about her situation here on Urban).
She was appreciative of my support and still friends so I'm assuming I wasn't the mysoginistic pig you think I am.
Louloubelle
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Because you don't respect yourself of other women?
Seems fairly obvious really
To me it looks like you are using very misogynist language in an attempt to make some point or other about how people should respect you regardless of how many people you have sex with and in what ways. However your choice of words and terminology result in you conveying an impression of being very angry and damaged. I don't think that your posts here are having the effect of securing the respect that you seem to want. You may wish to reconsider your strategy re terminology as right now you iz doin it wrong.
past caring
The Cathars were right
Aye, well, you're right on that one (both the memory and the meaning).
That said - and even though I wasn't being entirely (or even slightly) serious - I make no apology. Because sometimes, I'm afraid, it's a case of live by the sword, die by the sword. See, after your,
(I've added the bold to make it precisely clear what I objected to - which wasn't the name-calling) and your continued failure - despite my invitation - to explain or justify that post, I'll happily put my hands up to taking a cheap (and perhaps ill-considered) shot out of frustration. Were you actually in my presence when coming out with this kind of shit, I'd gob in your face, tbf.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Because you don't respect yourself of other women?
Seems fairly obvious really
To me it looks like you are using very misogynist language in an attempt to make some point or other about how people should respect you regardless of how many people you have sex with and in what ways. However your choice of words and terminology result in you conveying an impression of being very angry and damaged. I don't think that your posts here are having the effect of securing the respect that you seem to want. You may wish to reconsider your strategy re terminology as right now you iz doin it wrong.
You seem determined to make this about my moral choices, and your right to comment on them, than you are concerned about routine violence and disrespect directed at women.
I used extreme language to make the point that those diverting this onto clothing or cadging drinks are missing the point. Even if some hypothetical woman was straddling some guys cock in public … that gives no one else the right to molest her, uninvited.
Twenty years ago, rape within marriage was not possible, "I do" meant becoming a sexual chattel. And you choose to focus on my angry words?
You can tell me what you believe all you like. I'll judge you by the thoughts you choose to express, repeatedly, and by those you prefer to ignore.
Think that's going a little far Mr caring.
past caring
The Cathars were right
If it was bloke, they'd get a right hander.
There you go, I've outed myself as a sexist at last.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
It is a rather alarmingly violent response. Still, he's not a woman. Aggression is to be expected and tolerated in men. Apparently.
Dead impressed with all you brave warriors who don't mind telling me off for being out of order, but have so little respect for men they think these sad inadequates ain't even worth challenging.
Gutless hypocrites.
Dead impressed with all you brave warriors who don't mind telling me off for being out of order, but have so little respect for men they think these sad inadequates ain't even worth challenging.
Gutless hypocrites.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Seems to me that the original topic has long since had any real bearing on the discussion and is now just an excuse for a Willy waving shouting contest (where no one is really listening to anyone else). Of which I'm guilty of participating in along with others I admit. At least I recognise that and am honest about it but with that realisation I also realise that I've had enough. I'm bailing from the thread. Bye bye.
Streathamite
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ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
He seems to change his mind all the time, keeps claiming his posts mean the opposite of what they appear to say.
Not sure what that has to do with his desire to gob in my face, or other aggressive language from him and others that I have been repeatedly challenged for challenging.
Pretty fucked up. In my world, anyway. Like the bloke who hit me for stopping him hitting a bloke for hitting a woman.
Nowt more pathetic than a macho and/or moralising hypocrite. Do they think no one notices their actions belie their words?
How on earth did you come to the conclusion that PC - or anyone - was implying that?
That's truly baffling.
Lots of people have accused ymu of aggression in this thread. Meanwhile, PC has spoken here about actual violence -- it's a valid question to ask why the same accusers aren't taking issue with this categorical step-up in aggression.
revol68
what, fucking what?
it's not aggression that is ymu's problem on this thread it's the hysterical all over the shop nature of it, which is why she has pissed off so many people from so many positions. Well that and she's a simpleton.
I think it's been neither hysterical nor simplistic.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
How on earth did you come to the conclusion that PC - or anyone - was implying that?
That's truly baffling.
Are you claiming that I haven't been repeatedly insulted for showing my anger, by people who have not mentioned the aggression towards women I am challenging?
Or that he did not say he'd like to gob in my face, or hit me if I were a bloke (ie get away with it with his self-image intact).
Again, interesting to see what moves you to actually post your thoughts. Dead impressed by your priorities.
Just stop using the word hysterical, it's so fuckin patronising!
revol68
what, fucking what?
her responses to my points have been, her response to captain hurrah were equally so.
do you have anything to actually add, cos your white knight act is seriously flimsy.
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