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btw, I am NOT in the same camp as grit and Gromit on this one! grit is on one massive windup, and you're buying it hook, line and sinker. gromit simply needs re-education

We'd all be in the same camp if ymu had her way.

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Arguing? Fux sake, he doesn't have an argument :D...he is just being a dick and getting excited about the prospect of upseting random women on the net (me/ymu).....nothing to be proud of IMO but hey...whatever turns him on eh? After all us little women are doing no more than being played. :facepalm: We really are that dim-witted.

Night.

Interesting. Does it really matter if Grit is 'playing' men or women?

It's a big grown up world and you ain't delicate precious objects anymore. Everyone is fair game when it comes to tolling. If he only trolls women its worth raising eyebrows (got issues?). If he only trolls men the same (indicates a lack of respect as equals imo).

I try to troll both but tbh tolling females is where you get the noticeable memorable giant threads for some reason. Man beef bores people I guess.
 
btw, I am NOT in the same camp as grit and Gromit on this one! grit is on one massive windup, and you're buying it hook, line and sinker. gromit simply needs re-education

So you want to reeducate my to believe that good looking women using their charms to tap men for drinks is a good thing. In the same vein good looking men getting off parking tickets the same way whilst other have to pay is also good etc.

You must obviously be a looker and don't want to stop getting away with free stuff or using money to feel liked even if its just an illusion.
 
Interesting. Does it really matter if Grit is 'playing' men or women?

It's a big grown up world and you ain't delicate precious objects anymore. Everyone is fair game when it comes to tolling. If he only trolls women its worth raising eyebrows (got issues?). If he only trolls men the same (indicates a lack of respect as equals imo).

I try to troll both but tbh tolling females is where you get the noticeable memorable giant threads for some reason. Man beef bores people I guess.

FWIW, the gender is actually irrelevant, its an exercise in demonstrating the hypocrisy in public. Right I'm really going to bed now.

*bows to the audience and goes to snuggle ms grit*
 
So you want to reeducate my to believe that good looking women using their charms to tap men for drinks is a good thing. In the same vein good looking men getting off parking tickets the same way whilst other have to pay is also good etc.

You must obviously be a looker and don't want to stop getting away with free stuff or using money to feel liked even if its just an illusion.
As any of the (fairly large) number of U75ers who know me in IRL will all-too-willingly, all-too-happily testify, the very last thing I am is a "looker"!:eek::D
The key points are
a) that's part of the game, you can always say "get lost" if you belive a drink is that high a price for the company of an attractive member of the opposite sex for a drink - get real, in other words
and
b) this thread is fundamentally about the fact that a woman has the right to wear what she wants, do what she wants subject to the same Ts & Cs as everyone is, without it being seen as legitimisation of rape. Put in thread-context, such posts as yours misread the sitch rather badly, IME.
 
We'd all be in the same camp if ymu had her way.

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Once more, show me where I have demonstrated disrespect or dislike for all men, as opposed to just the bitter twisted variety who are so inadequate they have to rely on stereotypical dog whistles to call the other inadequates to their corner.

You are pathetic, but thankfully very much in a minority.
 
As any of the (fairly large) number of U75ers who know me in IRL will all-too-willingly, all-too-happily testify, the very last thing I am is a "looker"!:eek::D
The key points are
a) that's part of the game, you can always say "get lost" if you belive a drink is that high a price for the company of an attractive member of the opposite sex for a drink - get real, in other words
and
b) this thread is fundamentally about the fact that a woman has the right to wear what she wants, do what she wants subject to the same Ts & Cs as everyone is, without it being seen as legitimisation of rape. Put in thread-context, such posts as yours misread the sitch rather badly, IME.

a. It may be the game. Doesn't make the game right. Tired excuse as to why we don't change so many of society's system. Oh but thats just the system so we have to live with it. However we seem to be arguing strenuously that other parts of the so called game have to change. When personally i think we have to look at it holistically and all inappropriate parts need to change (even the small seemingly harmless parts) if you want the big picture to change.

By that i mean that i don't think the 'He's the man, he buys her drinks and all she has to do is act the sex object' attitudes being acceptable is going to help dispell the she's dressed like a slut so should be treated like one attitudes.
 
sorry, Ymu, I have a large amount of respect for you, but revol68 actually has a fair point here

You are moved to second revo's puerile crap, but not to interject when a bunch of apes are splurging their hatred of women all over this thread?

Actions, not words, is how I judge people.
 
You are moved to second revo's puerile crap, but not to interject when a bunch of apes are splurging their hatred of women all over this thread?

Actions, not words, is how I judge people.
he made a fair point, and I equally abhor some of the utterly depressing posts by posters on this thread, whom I assume are male as well.
 
What fair point? That I have no grounds to demaand men are routinely expected to treat women with respect, because he has to feel scared in Catholic areas?

And his patronising shit is OK cos I'm only a woman, but my aggression is well out of order for the same reason?

And that's the only and most important point you could find to make on the last few pages of this thread?

I rest my fucking case, your honour.

Cock off.
 
You are moved to second revo's puerile crap, but not to interject when a bunch of apes are splurging their hatred of women all over this thread?

Actions, not words, is how I judge people.

This is a bulletin board. So its all words and none of it actions.

The only ones who know how I act around women in real life is myself and the women I know. You can only guess and I'm pretty damn sure that your guesses would be way off the mark.
 
Would I be a limp-cocked, sexually inadequate and ineducable 'ape' to talk of a possible problem with slut walks, here in the UK or elsewhere, as either actively or unintentionally de-contextualising the problems of patriarchal relationships into an illusory fest of 'me me me' personal preference, without seeing or caring that this kind of individualism is one of the primary contradictions women face. In reality, women’s disempowerment is institutional, and no amount of seeing the world as one of doing whatever the fuck you want takes away the self-doubt women are taught from an early age and the limits placed on them by a society that still constrains them. What's the wider class content/power dynamics of this stuff, though? What feminisms are involved here?

I see no problem in itself, of expressing disagreement with how female sexuality is a commodity (as is the male) from women themselves, but which women, what experience, which class perspective are they coming from? Then there's the libertarianism, already said above - the idea that people have a damn right to define their own happiness as the ultimate objective in the current social order, and this is politically ideal under capitalism. It's shitty-safe identity politics, and we’ve all been sold this idea of freedom for a long time. People seem to be rejecting what they merely support - a set of values already in existence. Someone’s damn fucking right (so, ner), to do a a few particular things in the way they fucking well want to, is still done in a society which is at its base against women, and hasn't been changed. That's the contradiction, whether a relatively privileged middle class woman is prodding and poking me with a sharp finger and calling me (inaccurate) names, or not.
 
So, women can be free if they achieve an appropriate level of cllass consciousness and don't have the temerity to be well-educated?

Cheers for that. These rules always confuse me.
 
So, women can be free if they achieve an appropriate level of cllass consciousness and don't have the temerity to be well-educated?

Cheers for that. These rules always confuse me.

that's your response to someone raising an important point about contradictions and limitations in such protests, to try and peg them as bossing women around. You're pathetic, you'd rather spend the effort engaging with an obvious troll because it allows you avoid having to think through your own politics beyond whining about what bastards men are. It's certainly easier than engaging with those posters making serious points about the protest or responses to you. The fact you can't even get my analogy right says it all, I was talking about being a catholic in larne and avoiding certain bars, not being afraid of catholic areas you ignorant muppet.

you're an embarrassment to feminism, the feminist equivalent to some posh wee spotty SWP paper seller.

now maybe i'm being harsh here and you've just lost the plot because you've been played by an obvious troll for so long but either way you are coming across mental.
 
Yes, that's exactly what I said.

don't you know the role of men is to cheer lead any woman anywhere doing anything ever as a woman, critical engagement isn't evidence of an actual real and honest interest in such matters rather it's just you waving your big cock about and oppressing the sisterhood.
 
I'm sure in amongst the stir these walks have caused on the internet, that there are class-based critical views (or even from a perspective of race and class) from women in response to these slut walks. Say, in blogs written by women (not the cringe-worthy spam porn ones, like). You know, have the temerity to challenge and dare criticise them, with not being middle class or had the chance of access to high education, due to structural limits placed on them because of not only their sex but also class. That perhaps attack the unquestioned, shouty class privilege of it all, on who is 'reclaiming' what, and for which purpose. Or maybe they've joined up and become tokens or mascots for the leaders. It's all inclusive, like.
 
Sorry, revol. I could have sworn he was just having a crude pop at me whilst spouting some abstract snobbery about demographics who may and may not express an opinion.

If you think I was just engaging a troll, them that would explain your sneery pretension, and that oh so wounded ego. You actually think it's OK for men to speak about women like the apes that descended on this thread, and my challenging it seems to offend you beyond reason. Interesting, that.
 
Really? Do I ooze mindless hatred as transparently as you do?

How unpleasant. I must address that.
 
I think grit really has those attitudes and it feels pretty good to say it out. It's like me on a Tory rant, you gotta believe it to some degree (which I do). Smug and all so ironic and taking the piss, but I bet it feels good to say that shit eh?

Most men don't really believe women are their equal at work and running the world. A lot of women don't either.
 
Really? Do I ooze mindless hatred as transparently as you do?

How unpleasant. I must address that.

Yes, yes. I'm brim full of hate et cetera. And it's quite clear you like to shout and drown others out, tell them all about YOU, or try and intimidate people or put them down with slurs and abusive language. Or put words into their mouths. It's not just been on here, but other threads too (screaming at love detective a while ago). But if you're itching to deploy your usual braying tactics any further, and use your sleep condition as an excuse to act like a nasty brat, you're fucking not going to be doing that with me, sunshine.

It's been suggested before. Get some self-awareness and grow up, potty mouth.
 
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