belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Malatesta is the author, so title & subtitle is perfectly acceptable. Repeating one of the two key words in the sub is rather superfluous though, it was hardly likely to be perspectives on the state of opera.
London Anarchist bookfair 2020
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Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Paul Mason demanding his taxi fare
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Well, yes actually (speaking, that is, not wanting travel expenses). 4.45 on the Saturday:
Star and Shadow: Projectile 2008: Anarchist Festival
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Projectile was great. Best ran anarcho thing I've been to.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
I don't believe you.
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ska invita
back on the other side
this is heaven to me - shouldnt be seen in anyway as contradictory to anarchist practice - the opposite: anarcho-bureaucracy is the prize! So long as all delegates in committee positions are fully recallable, or on a rotating scheduleHad a union branch meeting today where there was a motion proposed, everyone was happy with the demands and general aim, but some members of the committee were unhappy with some parts of the wording and perspective. Cue a lengthy discussion about whether it'd be better to go away, reword the motion so it was acceptable to everyone, and then vote on it at the next meeting, or vote on it today and try to resolve the matter straight away. We eventually decided to have a vote on whether to vote on it today or postpone it, and the majority voted to have a vote. Then we voted on it and the majority voted it down, so it was agreed that the proposers of the motion and their critics would go away, reword the motion so it was acceptable to everyone, and then vote on it at the next meeting.That's the proper, smoothly efficient, non-anarcho-scene class struggle for you.
Also reaching a consensus is preferable to taking things to a vote. This is genuinely great I think https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/handbookweb.pdf
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
For me it was probably j18
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Librarians take the title and author not from the cover but from the title page within the book #cataloguing101
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
And nice to remember that the Star and Shadow is still going, which reassures some of my doubts about long-term libertarian infrastructure a bit. (Cue round of "what, you haven't heard about what's happened with the Star and Shadow?")
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I think there's something in the size of town/city, types of groups there, and maybe the amount of people in the 'scene' that does make a difference with fallings out and implosions?
London always seems the epicentre of this stuff, Leeds and Manchester are bad too it seems, and plenty of places like Newcastle and Norwich seem to escape it almost entirely.
There's no requirement to get on in London. Plus anyone who chooses to move there is a freak by definition.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there are prickly characters in the north-east as there are in eg leeds and london
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Tbf, I think there's people on this thread who've been involved since the split in the First International, or thereabouts, who are still a bit confused about what's going on.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
For sure, I do think there's something about the size of some larger places that makes it easier to be less accountable and to ignore people or move scenes if you have a falling out though. Maybe something to do with people's lack of roots and connections to an area as well makes falling out easier.
Some thing about places with large transient populations as well maybe? Can we blame students for something surely too?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i was thinking of two longstanding anarchists, the one in the north-east and the other in leeds, who - i think it's fair to say - are very marmite
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
What’s the anarchist scene like in Kent ? Is there one ?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Dunno mate, not lived there since 1979.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Is the Leeds one connected to olden times London bookfair beef from back in the distant 2000s, or am I way wide of the mark there?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
No idea what you mean, and I live here, although disconnected to much of the 'scene'. There's been plenty of fallings out over the years, the Class War split/collapse/whatever one is memorable (although well before my time in the city), but mostly the drama I know of has revolved around scenes since then (mostly people who moved here to be students and then stayed); within the 'identity politics' stuff for want of a better description, they seem to fall out with each other at the drop of a hat tbh. It looks like proper 'Life of Brian' stuff sometimes looking at somewhat externally (although tbf I admit to some of that stuff in the past. Age... eh, softens you up doesn't it?
)E2A: Couldn't resist...
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is there one where you are now ?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I've seen that SolFed are/have been active in Croydon AFAIK, but beyond that, no idea.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
there was an anarchist from Leeds who used to post on here many moons ago. When I met him at drinks thing I explained that there were some anarchists who used to live in the flat above mine in Acton and it turned out that he knew them in Leeds. Small world.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Thinking about it, are Chumbawamba actually the best example of a longstanding, stable UK anarchist project that managed to last for a considerable period of time without splintering into fractions that hate each other?
Or is this another point I'm about to be disappointed on?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I feel like it should be possible to rework this post as a limerick.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Fwiw, AngryWorkers have a local group who sound decent to me:
Local groups – Croydon - Angry Workers
Here is a summary of some local mapping of Croydon we've done so far: Geographically, Croydon is located on the outskirts of London, formerly as the business and administrative hub of Surrey, but now undoubtedly a large suburb of Greater London. The area is a major transport hub, with West...
www.angryworkers.org
Croydon Kick Off
croydonkickoff.wordpress.com
Unless they've had an acrimonious split and dissolved in the last few months, I suppose.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Fwiw, AngryWorkers have a local group who sound decent to me:
Local groups – Croydon - Angry Workers
Here is a summary of some local mapping of Croydon we've done so far: Geographically, Croydon is located on the outskirts of London, formerly as the business and administrative hub of Surrey, but now undoubtedly a large suburb of Greater London. The area is a major transport hub, with West...Croydon Kick Off
Unless they've had an acrimonious split and dissolved in the last few months, I suppose.
No acrimonious split, but not so active as they were. Still about though in a somewhat reduced format.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the former
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
They are very decent people. I hold them in some regard.Fwiw, AngryWorkers have a local group who sound decent to me:
Local groups – Croydon - Angry Workers
Here is a summary of some local mapping of Croydon we've done so far: Geographically, Croydon is located on the outskirts of London, formerly as the business and administrative hub of Surrey, but now undoubtedly a large suburb of Greater London. The area is a major transport hub, with West...Croydon Kick Off
Unless they've had an acrimonious split and dissolved in the last few months, I suppose.
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