Liz Truss’s time is up
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Did Reeves land any good punches or was it really just Truss digging her own grave?
Not got to that bit yet. But interestingly she has thrown Kwarteng under the bus for the first time and said the upper tax rate thing was his idea and his alone.
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She talks about making the difficult decisions but she gets them all wrong
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
The difficult part for her is deciding exactly how wrong she should be
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
She’s already declared war on over half of her MPs, so why not her chancellor as well?
That would be the smart move on her part. But she's not smart. And the overwhelming impression was of a narcissist who will not be for turning. Gove was sitting there too and put the boot in. Never thought I'd warm to him..
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That suggests she has any say in the matter. She was put in place by the far right in the party and is doing what she's told.That would be the smart move on her part. But she's not smart. And the overwhelming impression was of a narcissist who will not be for turning. Gove was sitting there too and put the boot in. Never thought I'd warm to him..
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Starry Wisdom
Not very well
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
I wonder if Gove is co-ordinating moves to bring her down and install sunak? seems the tory party split is now between the swivel eyed true believers around truss - and the rest of them. Which puts sunak, may, gove, hunt and even johnson on the same side. the tory Brexit revolution devouring its own children.
ruffneck23
front left
tbf, it was a pretty daft question. her plan wouldn't be put to a vote.
kuenssberg is not a great interviewer. the local radio people did a better job earlier in the week.
Nobody voted for her plan or could have. I'm with Liz on this one, I'd be a tad confused by the question. Where's 2,000 coming from?
80,000 Tories voted for her to be leader but I don't think many of them knew just how batshit she was gonna be within weeks of getting in.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I guess the operative compnent is 'how'. Her career and conduct thus far have indicated at least some degree of horror. So, yes, the issue is how
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
While totally agreeing with the general sentiment, pretty much despite her seeming lack of intellect she has managed to work her way to the top of the tree, so she must have some kind of... I dunno, political nous or something.
Even saying that, it does still seem hard to fathom when looking at any of the evidence.
Funnily enough, for a while I've been wondering if I should do something like that, taking a moment to pause and properly process the info/question before responding, as otherwise I can often answer in a way that's not actually very helpful/relevant.
It's hard to go against the general conversational conventions that generally dictate an uninterrupted rhythm, though.
Again, not necessarily defending Truss, but just one of those things I find interesting to reconsider.
There were silences on other questions. I think she just takes time to process things. She also kept using the phrase 'laying the ground'. Isn't it 'laying the groundwork'?
in the campaign she also managed to mangle the phrase 'hit the ground running' into just 'hit the ground from day one'
TBF I'm guessing you're not regularly on live broadcast interviews though.
Also there is a way to do it. Draw out a well, or let me answer this way... Rather than just dead air where you're left to imagine the smell of the burning gears.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
What's wrong with asking her what her mandate is, following not just a change of party leader and PM, but also the trashing of the manifesto on which she stood and which she defended until a few months ago? She may not want to answer, but it's certainly a line of questioning worth pushing. if you are interested in democratic legitimacy and accountability; shame it wasn't pursued with a bit more vigour.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Lord Camomile
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Lord Camomile
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Yeah, and I think the way it was phrased means that it could be answered in any number of ways (i.e. did your cabinet vote on it, your party, Parliament, Tory members, the electorate...), which gives her lots of different ways to answer but also whichever answer she did give would be telling in itself.
She presumably stumbled because she interpreted it only as "who in the public voted for this?", and by trying to avoid falling into the trap she managed to fall into it anyway.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
But thank god there's no woke lefty comedian on the show trying to make Liz look absolutely ridiculous. Smashed it again babe!
Well, no, it was a stupid question but Sunak would have handled that slightly better. That clip does cut off rather abruptly but she did go on to say the Tories won a massive mandate in the last election so suggesting that's who voted for it. Which is the same line Boris used to use to explain how he should get away with his own incompetence.
Conference is gonna be fucking fantastic. Max schadenfreude.
Somewhat aptly, each one of those byline photos looks like the person has just opened a door to be greeted by the sight of someone being properly fucked.
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