Liz Truss’s time is up
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teqniq
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@RichardJMurphy: Yesterday was bad. It was, in fact, very, very bad. If Johnson was a disaster, Truss has set out to be worse. I very much doubt that any prime minister has set out to create...
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@RichardJMurphy: Yesterday was bad. It was, in fact, very, very bad. If Johnson was a disaster, Truss has set out to be worse. I very much doubt that any prime minister has set out to create...
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bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
When he says
of course much of that is already happening with schools, prisons, water companies, rail transport, energy supply, postal services etc - and creeping into the NHS... Look how well it's going so far.
My hunch is that Truss is a survivor, I think she'll even survive a general election. The incompetence and the u-turns frankly aren't important as long as the government placates public opinion and outflanks Labour. For all her hardline Thatcherite talk she isn't a fiscal conservative and is more than willing to run up debt.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Not an unreasonable hunch...but...if the proposed cap cap on energy is set a £2.5k (twice the 'normal average' household burden), then folk are still going to be a good deal poorer/feel a good deal poorer. All the while he zealot cabinet will be coming out with hugely unpopular 'reforms' that are massively popular with the few hundred Tufty wonks that they've surrounded themselves with. For all her talk of growth, she's about to preside over a brutal recessionary period.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It would be a mistake to conceive of the group around Truss as representing the capture of power by the ERG alone. Whilst the ERG is the organized core among MP's there is a much wider archipelago of groups (Spiked for one), right wing think tanks (the IEA for one), economists being exhumed from the intellectual dead (Minford for one), other 'intellectuals' (Goodwin for one) and media grifters (take your pick) coming to the fore here. Badenoch's campaign was a test bed for some of their ideas and social and cultural stances.
Truss' ambition - and that of those around her - is impressive. This isn't just an operation to deliver the usual Tory priorities of destroying the unions and organized working class, ripping apart what's left of the state and the organization of the transfer of wealth from us to them. There is a deeper social and cultural set of priorities about to be foregrounded here too (first shot is the colour and gender of those at the top of the operation). A clear desire to remake things in a more permanent way. The question of course is the extent to which Truss will have the ability and political space and agency to deliver on it. But, if you just watch the ERG you'll miss what's happening in the round. For those who were lucky enough not to live through the 80's what's coming (or what will be attempted at least) represents a serious rise of the ante by their side that we haven't seen since then.
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not-bono-ever
meh
That’s a pretty seedy backstabby cabinet she’s got there. All scum you wouldn’t want to be chained to a radiator fir 2 years with. Fuck me, is is possible to Find a less qualified , less trustworthy group of people to work for you ? I almost feel sorry for her*
*Not really. Fuck her
*Not really. Fuck her
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
If she introduces this cap, will it completely defang Don't Pay, and will that have a significant 'deflating' effect on any resistance movement, including EiE?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
In terms of EiE, no for 4 reasons:
- As I understand it Truss is going to announce that we will have to pay back the costs of the intervention on energy bills either though higher taxation or higher energy bills for 10-20 years. Her approach is best understood is merely a delayed transfer of money from the 99% to the rich, a slower bleed out.
- inflation is being caused by rising prices, which are being driven by corporate greed and non-labour input costs. Nothing Truss will do will improve that. In fact, corporation tax cuts and wider tax cuts will simply transfer more money to those who already have it and further fuel inflation. The Bank of England will bravely respond by further increasing interest rates further causing increased poverty and misery.
- millions of people are already broke and in fuel and food poverty (Fuel poverty: estimates for the UK) The crisis is here, capping gas and leccy bills, at best, slows down the severity of it.
- the EiE demands are wider than energy prices and focus on pay rises, food poverty, housing and taxing the rich.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I do recall some of these things were said about Johnson when he first got in.
But with the pandemic and Brexit more or less out of the way, she has less to get sidetracked with.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
You could be right about surviving anything Labour throws at her, and maybe a GE, but I have my doubts about how long she will survive the machinations of the Tory party for.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
are either of those things out the way? Brexit certainly isn't, as Mogg will discover when he starts interacting with businesses. He won't care or listen of course
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Hence the "more or less". Brexit has actually been done. Both that and the pandemic will obv have ongoing consequences.
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Richard Murphy (@RichardJMurphy)
Yesterday was bad. It was, in fact, very, very bad. If Johnson was a disaster, Truss has set out to be worse. I very much doubt that any prime minister has set out to create so many conflicts from the outset of their premiership in the way that Truss has. A thread….
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Supine
Newt Member
Inflation has been rising since Q1 2020. The brexit effect is a snowball that keeps getting bigger. We will only know the hardwired impact on inflation when the war/energy issue is out of the way. Both are unfortunately significant factors on the current crisis.
My sense is that she'd lose an election against anyone else than the current Labour party. Though Starmer seems kind of competent, his front bench are absolutely useless from what I can tell. But hey, Truss has just appointed the weirdest cabinet ever so you never know.
Bring on MMP. I don't want a binary choice. There's plenty of other talent languishing in parties that will never see action in Government.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Well we've left the EU, yes. But I woulnd't call this omnishambles done at all.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
When you say ‘Brexit has actually been done’ do you mean that what was voted for in the 2016 referendum has happened, or is the word ‘Brexit’ referring to something else?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
When you use the word ‘we’ in this context do you mean all constituent parts of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Fuck off
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
NI is doing better thanks to the protocol than everyone else, iirc. In response the DUP holds Stormont hostage and the Tories are now possessed by those who think the protocol is entirely irredeemable and blame the EU for all the problems they were warned would happen. I don't consider that to be done.
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
The point is that he pretended that he did. As you can see from my post. The post you replied to. And other people's posts.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Fair enough. ‘We’ haven’t left the EU.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
You forgot to add ‘you cunt’.
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