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Liz Truss’s time is up

Smokeandsteam said:
Indeed. Further evidence of the mainstreaming of the insurgent right. A few years ago the TPA were widely understood as cranks - even by most Tories. Now they are proximate to genuine power. Also, see Braverman, Cleverly and Kwarteng in the top jobs. All signed up or confirmed fellow travellers of the same tendency.
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I hadn’t even looked at the rest of the Cabinet yet. Didn’t realise it would be out so quickly.
 
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Ax^ said:
oh a climate denier as energy minister

he have kids down the fucking mines by Christmas

suitable he has also look like Dickensian villian
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I can't see him lasting. The business sector will give him a dose of brexit reality he will have to reconcile with his sad little fantasy or quit. Same with Braverman, when she tries to ban the RNLI or something, or start a naval war with France
 
you are more hopefully that me when he be giving out tax cuts like its christmas

profit is not illegal as the boss said before she was pm
 
Supine said:
In the pocket of.
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That's the response I was about to make.

Not to sound like I'm giving myself away here, only I'm perhaps happier finding some light in the rapidly closing darkness of both the autumn nights and the current Government, which is why I'm hiding amongst the lighter side of social media rather than the grim side of political discussion.

Anyway, I think it is rather obvious that the Brexit extremists have been playing a very long game. They ensured Leave would win, pushed out Theresa May for daring to want compromise over purity, and held Boris over the flames over their American-style libertarianism (see how they morphed into anti -mask loons).

Now they managed to ensure Penny Mordant didn't make the ballot and got Truss to No 10. They're almost at the end of their project, if that's what all this has been leading to: "Singapore -on-Thames" for London and bugger the rest of us.

(Tangent: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, as my posting history on the COVID threads should prove. I don't believe that there are men in corridors plotting to overtake the country by closing down burger joints and the local pub. Most of what we're seeing is a group of dim Englishman {{sic}} who would like to be Republicans/Evangelicals trying ever so hard and getting it wrong, rather than any grand plan from above)
 
Petcha said:
So just so im clear. She's planning to cut taxes and at the same time bail out the energy issue with eye watering amounts of money by borrowing it? of course the latter has to be done but the former? how's she gonna pay for this?
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Even some tories are uneasy about the tax cuts, or at least how they will look, and the media hasnt been completely shy of pointing out how it looks either.

Plenty of the concerns arent about the actual effect this will have on increasing inequality, its that the tax cutting stuff rather gets in the way of even the flimsiest of pretences of giving a shit about fairness and redistribution of wealth. This doesnt make much difference to all of us who have never taken such fig leafs seriously, but the concern is it makes it harder for those whose job it is to sell us the usual bullshit, to justify that crap, to dress shit up, to tell certain lies with a straight face. It makes it harder for them to frame stuff, the contradiction becomes too obvious for even a relatively complicit managerial media class to avoid pointing it out.
 
David Clapson said:
Andrew Marr says Iain Duncan Smith and John Redwood are tipped for treasury jobs. A Liz Truss government means the return of the radical right Anyone care to predict when the rioting starts?

I'm sure Smith has the intellectual horsepower to formulate economic policy in a recession. He didn't go to university but he only took 6 years in the army to rise to the rank of Lieutenant.

edit: in case any of his constituents are reading this, and are under the impression that he has a degree and a business studies qualification, because that's what he told you, I refer you to Newsnight of 19/12/02 BBC - Press Office - Iain Duncan Smith CV
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You're something of a snob I see
 
David Clapson said:
Andrew Marr says Iain Duncan Smith and John Redwood are tipped for treasury jobs. A Liz Truss government means the return of the radical right Anyone care to predict when the rioting starts?

I'm sure Smith has the intellectual horsepower to formulate economic policy in a recession. He didn't go to university but he only took 6 years in the army to rise to the rank of Lieutenant.

edit: in case any of his constituents are reading this, and are under the impression that he has a degree and a business studies qualification, because that's what he told you, I refer you to Newsnight of 19/12/02 BBC - Press Office - Iain Duncan Smith CV
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I didn't know that 1977 was six years after 1975
 
The most notable nightmare prospect I was aware of being floated in the press recently, but that hasnt come to pass today, is that Badenoch didnt get to be education minister, got international trade instead.

But I think she had also been tipped for that role previously, eg a year ago. Presumably they have so far only been willing to engage in culture war shit stirring to the more limited extent of dangling that prospect in front of people in the media, rather than fully pressing the trigger by actually going ahead with that appointment. I guess they like to excite from time to time the segment of their base that is well into culture wars shit, without actually fully unlocking those horrors at their most extreme.
 
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Tom Tugendhat has been appointed Minister for Security within the Home Office, so that's a largely "middle of the road, Cameron-like" Conservative working directly underneath a largely "anti-everything' right-winger.

Might need more biscuits around the table when the Home Office first meets.
 
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elbows said:
Even some tories are uneasy about the tax cuts, or at least how they will look, and the media hasnt been completely shy of pointing out how it looks either.

Plenty of the concerns arent about the actual effect this will have on increasing inequality, its that the tax cutting stuff rather gets in the way of even the flimsiest of pretences of giving a shit about fairness and redistribution of wealth. This doesnt make much difference to all of us who have never taken such fig leafs seriously, but the concern is it makes it harder for those whose job it is to sell us the usual bullshit, to justify that crap, to dress shit up, to tell certain lies with a straight face. It makes it harder for them to frame stuff, the contradiction becomes too obvious for even a relatively complicit managerial media class to avoid pointing it out.
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The obvious thing to do here is clearly to make a price 'cap' an actual 'cap' and stop moving the goalposts and raise taxes for the rich and corporations to cover this freezing the price hikes. And leave poorer peoples taxes alone, or hell yeh, cut those. Or is that too obvious.
 
Petcha said:
The obvious thing to do here is clearly to make a price 'cap' an actual 'cap' and stop moving the goalposts and raise taxes for the rich and corporations to cover this freezing the price hikes. And leave poorer peoples taxes alone, or hell yeh, cut those. Or is that too obvious.
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As has been said enough times on this forum and elsewhere, "a price cap which keeps rising is just a price"
 
PR1Berske said:
Tom Tugendhat has been appointed Minister for Security within the Home Office, so that's a largely "middle of the road, Cameron-like" Conservative working directly underneath a largely "anti-everything' right-winger.

Might need more biscuits around the table when the Home Office first meets.
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The Cameron side of the party is positively left wing compared to this lot meeting at cabinet tomorrow (and i have the misfortune to work for one of DC's best buddies) whose words to me on Truss's election were 'it's very depressing. that's the end of the Tories for the next election'. So silver linings n all that. They've shot themselves in the foot quite spectacularly here.
 
Petcha said:
The obvious thing to do here is clearly to make a price 'cap' an actual 'cap' and stop moving the goalposts and raise taxes for the rich and corporations to cover this freezing the price hikes. And leave poorer peoples taxes alone, or hell yeh, cut those. Or is that too obvious.
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Too impossible outside the EU?
 
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