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Liz Truss’s time is up

So just so im clear. She's planning to cut taxes and at the same time bail out the energy issue with eye watering amounts of money by borrowing it? of course the latter has to be done but the former? how's she gonna pay for this?
She's not we are. The energy bailout isn't really her idea, it's the one put forward by the CEO of Scottish Power but with the names changed to protect the guilty. It is actually probably about the best or more accurately least worse from the public's point of view since nationalising was never going to happen in any real world scenario. Because it does borrow and kick the repayment can down the road a while it does make tax cuts in the short term a bit more affordable, trick accounting works as well for Govts as it does for companies and individuals.
 
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She's not we are. The energy bailout isn't really her idea, it's the one put forward by the CEO of Scottish Power but with the names changed to protect the guilty. It is actually probably about the best or more accurately least worse from the public's point of view since nationalising was never going to happen in any real world scenario. Because it does borrow and kick the repayment can down the road a while it does make tax cuts in the short term a bit more affordable, trick accounting works as well for Govts as it does for companies and individuals.
Best would be a proper windfall tax.
 
So just so im clear. She's planning to cut taxes and at the same time bail out the energy issue with eye watering amounts of money by borrowing it? of course the latter has to be done but the former? how's she gonna pay for this?
That the problem. It’s a massive gamble that the economy will explode in a second industrial revolution kinda vibe that will easily pay off the debt hanging over us. It’s a beautiful delusion
 
This is In bold writing for those who aren’t reading the words only looking at the pictures….

It’s really obvious that those who are posting the comedy shit aren’t reading the discussion.
Meanwhile, people who are reading the discussion don’t want the comedy shit.


So, in the voice of the Viz top tips page:
Comedy posters! Why not go to another corner of the forum and have your fantastic discussion away from the boring old farts who just want to blether on about boring old politics!


Comedy posters!
I‘ve saved you the trouble and made you a thread.



If you or anyone else can offer a better title for it than this shit one, just let me know and I’ll gladly change it.
 
I popped into a local printer to get a quote today, and he's just come off a fixed price electric deal, which was about £4.5k a year and now he's going to have to pay £18k, with further increases in the pipeline, he's seriously considering calling it a day and folding the business, he's gutted because it would put three guys out of work, businesses are seriously going to be in trouble without proper help.

I am going to post this tweet, because it's not comical, but a good illustration of what fairly small businesses are facing, if Truss doesn't help them.

 
That the problem. It’s a massive gamble that the economy will explode in a second industrial revolution kinda vibe that will easily pay off the debt hanging over us. It’s a beautiful delusion
Cut taxes and it will spur growth is pretty much an article of faith with these people, there's very little evidence of that ever being true but they still cling to it.
 
Best would be a proper windfall tax.
Yeah, windfall taxes aren't some crazy socialist idea. Truss' role model, Thatcher, levied windfall taxes on banks and on North Sea oil & gas. They're a tried and tested way to raise public money when a sector's profits run out of control. There's no reason to rule out a windfall tax on energy companies to pay for a price freeze. Shit, the government would be taking money from the energy companies and then giving it back to them. Ruling it out is pure, idiotic, deep in the pocket of greedy energy producers cuntitude.
 
I wondered that too, apparently it was for security reasons, which I guess is understandable, but still no reason why they couldn't have travelled up yesterday by train or a commercial flight rather than two fucking private jets.



Also for security reasons, those armed cops need to be in cars.
Yeah, can you imagine the tedium of another leadership contest should a terrific accident happen and kill them both?

ETA. Terrible. I meant to say terrible.
 
If it helps, I'd be delighted if the Liz Truss dressed as... thread was to become a repository for any mirth-filled fun at the expense of La Truss.
 
aye that what the thread was for


saying that the memes will die off after a few days the boris thread was not ruined by them
 
I popped into a local printer to get a quote today, and he's just come off a fixed price electric deal, which was about £4.5k a year and now he's going to have to pay £18k, with further increases in the pipeline, he's seriously considering calling it a day and folding the business, he's gutted because it would put three guys out of work, businesses are seriously going to be in trouble without proper help.

I am going to post this tweet, because it's not comical, but a good illustration of what fairly small businesses are facing, if Truss doesn't help them.


My friends who run a small co-op business were lucky enough to get a fixed rate for two years earlier this year. Unless the government helps out, businesses that got lucky with their fixed rates are the only ones that will survive. The new rates are just not absorbable. I feel like Truss will have to address it. She'll probably manage to do it in a really shit way that makes her energy company friends rich and still drives a load of small businesses to the edge of bankruptcy though.
 
So, she's going to 'deliver, deliver, deliver.'

Has she taken a second job with deliveroo?
 
She's not we are. The energy bailout isn't really her idea, it's the one put forward by the CEO of Scottish Power but with the names changed to protect the guilty. It is actually probably about the best or more accurately least worse from the public's point of view since nationalising was never going to happen in any real world scenario. Because it does borrow and kick the repayment can down the road a while it does make tax cuts in the short term a bit more affordable, trick accounting works as well for Govts as it does for companies and individuals.
Not sure it's the least worst. This idea that they're trying to implement in Europe seems pretty sensible - decouple electricity prices from gas prices. Let cheaper renewables sell for less.

This current UK plan looks like subsidies for fossil fuel producers dressed up as good for consumers.
 
So, she's going to 'deliver, deliver, deliver.'

Has she taken a second job with deliveroo?

Deliver Deliver Deliver low taxes and profits for energy companies and share holders


Workhouses and soup kitchens for the rest of us

she did not want to say it on the first day
 
This is one angry, angry statement:




I'm wary of posting this, because it's a tweet, but it is currently the only way to share an update on the sacking of Johnny Mercer.

His wife has detailed the conversion with Mercer and Lizz, and has included a mocking pastiche of her.

On the topic of posting from Twitter, I'll continue where I believe it's appropriate or necessary, but I've taken on board that comedy/memes are not for this particular thread and I'll ensure that my contributions are directly related to the topic from now on. I enjoy my time here and want to balance sharing constructive Twitter links with behaving properly here.


Anyway. Here's the tweet in response to the above one.

 
I’ve been joking along with this thread, but over the last few minutes it’s sunk in that she’s actually Prime Minister. :eek:
 
for the record i've not been joking about in the thread and have been watching the last few months in growing alarm
and we are now here with a fucking useless Health sec with no experience who is also against same sex marriage and abortions

and liz truss as pm
Yes indeed it has train wreck written all over it
 
for the record i've not been joking about in the thread and have been watching the last few months in growing alarm
and we are now here with a fucking useless Health sec with no experience who is also against same sex marriage and abortions

and liz truss as pm

Oh, it will be a shitshow like we’ve never seen, but sometimes there’s something to be said for ripping off the plaster quickly.
 
At risk of incurring much anti-tweet ire...this looks rather troubling. Unsurprising, I suppose, but still troubling:

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Indeed. Further evidence of the mainstreaming of the insurgent right. A few years ago the TPA were widely understood as cranks - even by most Tories. Now they are proximate to genuine power. Also, see Braverman, Cleverly and Kwarteng in the top jobs. All signed up or confirmed fellow travellers of the same tendency.
 
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