Liz Truss’s time is up

[brogdale]

what is the likelihood of Boris returning?

Johnson

 

[SpookyFrank]

they ALL lost to Liz Truss

We all lost to Liz Truss.

 

[Raheem]

Even Liz Truss has lost to Liz Truss.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Even Liz Truss has lost to Liz Truss.

The country gets the PM it deserves not what it needs

 

[Wilf]

In practice, the tory members are out of the game now. The 1922 itself decides the rules (they may have to put those rules through conference at some point - can't be arsed to check - but they certainly the body that seems to have the power to change the rules in these kind of circumstances). Things are so bad at the moment that the poll mentioned upthread about members being happy for it to be done by MPs is probably itself sufficient for the Brady Bunch to take charge.

 

[billy_bob]

what is the likelihood of Boris returning?

Zero at the moment. Whether because there's a ruthless politico behind the blustering exterior or because he just can't be fagged doesn't really matter - he's not going to come back unless he can waltz to victory like in 2019, and that hardly seems plausible right now.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The country gets the PM it deserves not what it needs

What complete bollocks. We deserve someone who won't sell us all down the river for a few donations from hedge fund types.

 

[Ming]

that's a bold claim

Sounds a bit rude.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I've no idea what will happen next except that Truss is toast and the Tories will try to come up with some plan to replace her that allows them to avoid a general election that they will lose.

They may well fail in that attempt because the tories have no idea what they are doing. I think we need to remember that. It's not just Truss who's a fuckwit. There are hundreds of them in parliament. Every MP who voted for Truss, for starters.

 

[Artaxerxes]

What complete bollocks. We deserve someone who won't sell us all down the river for a few donations from hedge fund types.

Yesterday was an extra cynical day, I’ll try and do better.

I’m so fucking tired.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

PMQs should be fun. If Starmer doesn't open with "How nice of the current PM to join us" there's something wrong with the world.

Also "last week the right honourable member for South West Norfolk tried to turn this into Leader of the Opposition's Questions. A reminder that she is, for now at least, still supposed to be answering the questions asked."

 

[ska invita]

Man U v Spurs will be a better contest than this Sunday league crap

 

[cupid_stunt]

PMQs should be fun. If Starmer doesn't open with "How nice of the current PM to join us" there's something wrong with the world.

Also "last week the right honourable member for South West Norfolk tried to turn this into Leader of the Opposition's Questions. A reminder that she is, for now at least, still supposed to be answering the questions asked."

He's also got to hit her with her absolute promise of no spending cuts, that she made during PMQs last week.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Man U v Spurs will be a better contest than this Sunday league crap

Well, that throw me, anyway, back to Truss.

 

[SpookyFrank]

PMQs should be fun. If Starmer doesn't open with "How nice of the current PM to join us" there's something wrong with the world.

Also "last week the right honourable member for South West Norfolk tried to turn this into Leader of the Opposition's Questions. A reminder that she is, for now at least, still supposed to be answering the questions asked."

Similarly, he needs to open the first PMQs with whoever the new one is with, 'we'd like to welcome this week's prime minster...'

 

[8ball]

A little light relief:

 

[Supine]

Haha, todays fracking vote is a three line whip. Labour ready with attack adverts for any tories who vote to allow fracking. Some tory mp’s will be very unhappy about this.

 

[MickiQ]

There is a truly brilliant episode of the Muppets where Dr Honeydew invents flammable water and then accidentally starts a fire in the lab. Beaker is running around screaming trying to extinguish the fire only for things to get much worse.
Pretty much sums up the governing of this country at the moment.

 

[MickiQ]

And it's on YouTube and still funny (unlike Truss; Henson was a genius)

 

[elbows]

edit - Beaten to it with that clip so I'll just say I dont know if I can face watching PMQs.

 

[Lurdan]

 

[Lord Camomile]

He lost a leadership contest to Liz Truss. Liz Truss of all people.

Three points:

1. The Tories cannot hold a leadership election, try out the winner, then when she doesn’t work out, appoint the loser. That makes a mockery of the leadership contest.
2. It’s bad enough leaders coming and going without a general election, but with no party democracy either? It’s no longer the 1950s.
3. Liz Truss. He lost to Liz Truss.

Tbh, though I know what you mean, "trying something out then changing if it turns out to not work" actually seems like a fairly sensible approach in general terms!

Also, sure this point has been made already, but he lost in a contest to Liz Truss among Tory members. That's a different contest, judged on different metrics, to a general election among the general public.

Not saying he would win, simply that his loss to Truss is not necessarily indicative of how he'd fare with the wider public.

Or against Starmer

 

[Bingoman]

It going to get lot more interesting tonight if a load of Tories lose the whip lol

 

[Ted Striker]

He's also got to hit her with her absolute promise of no spending cuts, that she made during PMQs last week.

See also: Does this mean the Prime Minister is also part of the Anti Growth Coalition etc

 

[Lord Camomile]

More lost whips than 1am at an Indiana Jones convention.

 

[bluescreen]

Godalmighty.

These Tory members




ETA Apologies for the twitter link. Here's a better one: ‘I voted for Liz Truss – now I regret it’

 

[Bingoman]

Godalmighty.

These Tory members

A bit late people

 

[gentlegreen]

The state of those ...I bet they're on the database for call-centre scammers ...

 

[ruffneck23]

 

[A380]