List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

[BigTom]

I've also come across snippets in various places about a story of a man with a glass eye that with corrective surgery he would regain his eyesight. I'm not sure if this is a joke or whether it's true or a joke though

https://twitter.com/IanLaveryMP/status/218787183455248384

A man blind in one eye and a glass eye in the other socket was told by ATOS that with corrective surgery he could regain sight in both eyes

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

https://twitter.com/IanLaveryMP/status/218787183455248384

Yes, but he probably got that from the ATOS Miracles facebook page, so therefore it might just be a joke

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Atos Miracles

http://www.facebook.com/pages/ATOS-Miracles/259364897425986

 

[equationgirl]

Atos = the new Messiah???

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Atos = the new Messiah???

Tongue in cheek equation

Lots of good stories on that Atos Miracles Facebook page

 

[wayward bob]

i realise you could have a lot of stickies in here and i'm not a regular, but should this be stickied?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

i realise you could have a lot of stickies in here and i'm not a regular, but should this be stickied?

Good idea before it falls into the midst of thousands of other threads. Would probably have to ask Mrs M or one of the Mods to do it

 

[Frankie Jack]

Recession blamed for suicide rise across Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent

THE recession has been blamed for a huge rise in the number of suicides.
North Staffordshire coroner Ian Smith dealt with 29 suicide cases during the first half of this year.
That number compares with 25 for the whole of last year, 36 in 2010 and 21 in 2009.
The vast majority were men aged between 40 and 60 who had lost their jobs or suffered marriage breakdowns.
Citizens Advice Bureau experts say there is a direct link between the faltering economy and an increase in people taking their own lives.
Now Mr Smith has called in NHS bosses to look at what can be done to prevent future tragedies.

What do they expect the NHS to do when it's dealing with it's own cuts and privatisation schemes. It was a hard fight for the Lords to get any concessions with regard to mental health included when the bill was debated. Lansley would have left mental health responsibility out completely if he'd had his way.

 

[harpo]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/2012...s-death-and-gives-wrong-name-100252-31441114/

Has this been mentioned?

 

[wayward bob]

thanks for the sticky. ffs this thread shouldn't even exist

 

[ViolentPanda]

thanks for the sticky. ffs this thread shouldn't even exist

Not in a civilised, decent world, no.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Fucking hell. Good thread topic but very grim.

Please do NOT take this the wrong way but I think the essentially psychopathic nature of capitalism virtually sees suicide of the some of the poorest and most vulnerable as a kind of small scale final solution. It is hard to quantify just how much of a fuck George Osborne would not give about anyone in that list.

 

[trevhagl]

i've stuck this link on Facebook , the more shame it brings this evil govt the better

 

[BigTom]

Man threatens to come back with a petrol bomb at Colne job centre, after not receiving benefits for a month

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...b_threat_at_Colne_Job_Centre_by_benefits_man/

Robinson, who was not legally represented, described his behaviour as a "moment of madness”.

He told the hearing his benefits had been changed, he had had no money for a month and it had thrown him back into debt.

The defendant said he had had a drink and was "just at boiling point”.

Robinson claimed: "I seem to get passed from pillar to post."

The defendant said he admitted he had been in the wrong, there was no excuse and he would apologise to the staff. He realised he had to deal with them.

He said: "I just had a moment of madness, really. I just snapped. I am under so much pressure financially."

 

[treelover]

I wonder what sentence he will receive...

 

[treelover]

wrong thread..

 

[audiotech]

It's relevant IMO Mr Mod.

 

[treelover]

eh, stop bloody sniping, I was referring to what I had posted and then deleted, grow up, all this is too important for petty squabbles...

 

[audiotech]

A misunderstanding on my part. Please accept my apology's.

 

[BigTom]

I wonder what sentence he will receive...

Ah, when i saw this it's what i thought you were referring to with the wrong thread post.
The article is reporting the court case, he was bound over for £100 iirc, can't remember how long for. Sensible decision.

edit:

Robinson, of Blucher Street, Colne, admitted breaching the peace on July 17 and was bound over in the sum of £100, for 12 months

 

[treelover]

aye, good on the magistrate/judge...

 

[Greebo]

Ah, when i saw this it's what i thought you were referring to with the wrong thread post.
The article is reporting the court case, he was bound over for £100 iirc, can't remember how long for. Sensible decision.

Agreed, particularly as a bindover gives him a chance (by staying out of further trouble) to show that the offence was out of character.

 

[BigTom]

Agreed, particularly as a bindover gives him a chance (by staying out of further trouble) to show that the offence was out of character.

Yep, and no criminal record I think with a bind over, once it's completed it's gone, whereas a conditional discharge would still have to be declared on application forms etc.
I definitely remember being told that getting bound over was about the best outcome after not guilty when I did know your rights & legal observer training with GBC, I just can't remember the exact details.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Schizophrenic Kevin Bennett lay dead in Watford flat for ‘several months’
Coroner Edward Thomas said it was impossible to tell how long ago he had died.
His brother Tim Bennett said: "We discovered that his job seeker's allowance was stopped and after that there had been no movement of money in his accounts since December.
"There were letters about his student loan and from credit card companies saying we're coming round but he just ignored them."
A post mortem found no signs of injury, but due to the advanced state of "mummification" it was impossible to give a cause of death.
Mr Thomas recorded an open verdict.

 

[BigTom]

2 more people found fit to work who die from their condition within weeks (both heart conditions) - I thought I'd posted the Birmingham one on this thread already but I can't find it in a search so I must have put it elsewhere..

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/...um=twitter#.T_Qc1FaJnMx.twitter#ixzz1zeLvA7pS

A BIRMINGHAM dad died from a serious heart condition – weeks after Government assessors stopped his benefits and ruled he was fit for work.

Paul Turner, 52, from Erdington, was ordered to find a job in February following a medical review with doctors.

But he died on April 2 from ischaemic heart disease – caused, his family claim, by the stress of losing his benefits.

And in the Telegraph today ahead of the BBC panorama program, a similar story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...s-sending-sick-and-disabled-back-to-work.html

Stephen Hill was sent to his first Work Capability Assessment in 2010 when he gave up his job as a sandwich delivery man after being referred for tests on his heart.

His wife Denise, who was with him at the assessment, said: "She checked him out. She did his blood pressure and his heart and said to see a doctor as soon as possible."

Despite the assessor telling Mr Hill to seek urgent medical advice, he was still found fit for work. In the meantime doctors had diagnosed him with heart failure.

He won his appeal but he was ordered to attend another assessment.

"He got a letter for another medical and I couldn't believe it," said Mrs Hill. "He'd got to go for a medical when he was waiting for a heart operation."

But he was again declared fit for work, with the assessor declaring: "Significant disability due to cardiovascular problems seems unlikely."

Mr Hill died of a heart attack five weeks later.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

2 more people found fit to work who die from their condition within weeks (both heart conditions) -

His wife Denise, who was with him at the assessment, said: "She checked him out. She did his blood pressure and his heart and said to see a doctor as soon as possible."

Despite the assessor telling Mr Hill to seek urgent medical advice, he was still found fit for work. In the meantime doctors had diagnosed him with heart failure.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

2 more people found fit to work who die from their condition within weeks (both heart conditions) - I thought I'd posted the Birmingham one on this thread already but I can't find it in a search so I must have put it elsewhere..

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/...um=twitter#.T_Qc1FaJnMx.twitter#ixzz1zeLvA7pS



And in the Telegraph today ahead of the BBC panorama program, a similar story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...s-sending-sick-and-disabled-back-to-work.html

which reminds me, those TWO programmes are on tonight so I've stuck them on record.

I think it's worth giving the Channel 4 one it's own thread in TV and General don't you think? More people/publicity, the better

 

[BigTom]

yeah. I'm still speechless about that. I hope the assessor resigned after that, should have whistleblown. How you can find someone fit for work but tell them to seek urgent medical advice and say fuck all, I don't know, perhaps I'm wrong and the assessor didn't stay silent. Oh, they break the official secrets act if they speak out don't they..

 

[treelover]

'But he died on April 2 from ischaemic heart disease – caused, his family claim, by the stress of losing his benefits.'


j'accuse, murderers, blood on their hands....

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

yeah. I'm still speechless about that. I hope the assessor resigned after that, should have whistleblown. How you can find someone fit for work but tell them to seek urgent medical advice and say fuck all, I don't know, perhaps I'm wrong and the assessor didn't stay silent. Oh, they break the official secrets act if they speak out don't they..

Sorry Tom, but I'm really busy. Getting ready to go and pick up some houseguests.

Can you or someone else publicise the Channel 4 programme on TV forums and General?

If I get myself sorted fastish, I'll do it, but I've still got to fit breakfast in which I'm off to do now