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List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

hardly surprising; the media in this country exists to promote tory and tory style ideology. look at their reaction to 'interloper' and 'brazil nut' Raquel Rolnik. How any of this changes, I don't know. IDS doesn't care though, his attitude is absolutely shocking. A bullying bald tyrant.
 
Awesome Wells said:
hardly surprising; the media in this country exists to promote tory and tory style ideology. look at their reaction to 'interloper' and 'brazil nut' Raquel Rolnik. How any of this changes, I don't know. IDS doesn't care though, his attitude is absolutely shocking. A bullying bald tyrant.
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Ah now come on - There's nothing wrong with being a slaphead.
 
Bristol woman "killed herself after benefits were stopped"
PARTIALLY-sighted and only able to walk with the aid of a stick, Jacqueline Harris suffered crippling pain due to slipped discs in her back and neck. Her mobility was reduced further when a dog savaged one of her wrists.

Despite being in agony which strong pain relief could not ease, the 53-year-old was deemed to be fit for work following a government health assessment and told to seek work.

Her sister claims the verdict that she was ineligible for disability benefits drove her to take her own life earlier this month.

Nurse Christine Norman, top right, said her fitness-to-work assessment at a government-run centre lasted only a few minutes.

It is claimed that during the test she was only asked one question – "Did you come here by bus?", to which she answered 'yes'. The widow later received a letter by post telling her to find employment.

Ms Harris contested the ruling but was found dead at her home in Speedwell Road, Kingswood, on November 2 having taken an overdose.
 
Awesome Wells said:
hardly surprising; the media in this country exists to promote tory and tory style ideology. look at their reaction to 'interloper' and 'brazil nut' Raquel Rolnik. How any of this changes, I don't know. IDS doesn't care though, his attitude is absolutely shocking. A bullying bald tyrant.
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The media follow where they're pointed. In the case of the national daily print media, much of it happens to be owned by right-wingers (Telegraph titles/Barclay Bros: Star and Express titles/Richard Desmond; Mail titles/Rothermere; Sun and Times titles/Murdoch) who direct editorial policy (although all claim that they don't, ha-bloody-ha), so accusing the journalistic organs themselves of setting the agenda misses out that those organs are directed by powerful conduits for, and proponents of, capitalism.

As for Iain Dunked-in Shit, he's a zealot - the sort of fanatic that any rational person would walk miles to avoid. It's not that he (like Blair) "doesn't care" about the damage done, it's much more that they don't believe that the damage done is an unfair price for them achieving their goals. We are "collateral damage", and because we're for the most part politically-disempowered collateral damage, they feel that they need fear no reprisal either.
 
We'll see what happens on th e9th when he's meant to appear before the select committee.

I'm hoping they really push his buttons (won't be hard) and he loses his shit big time.

Either that or drops down dead.
 
Awesome Wells said:
We'll see what happens on th e9th when he's meant to appear before the select committee.

I'm hoping they really push his buttons (won't be hard) and he loses his shit big time.

Either that or drops down dead.
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I don't want him to die quickly, he doesn't deserve it. Let him die a slow wretched death in poverty as he has wished upon so many others.
 
equationgirl said:
I don't want him to die quickly, he doesn't deserve it. Let him die a slow wretched death in poverty as he has wished upon so many others.
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I'll take either, tbh.

Though i'd be concerned with whoever Osbourne decides should replace him because his ideas for welfare are no less scary. According to Simon Hughes (of all people), Osbourne wanted to cut 10% per year of an individual's JSA claim, if they 'lingered' on the dole for a long time.
 
Awesome Wells said:
We'll see what happens on th e9th when he's meant to appear before the select committee.

I'm hoping they really push his buttons (won't be hard) and he loses his shit big time.

Either that or drops down dead.
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If they ask him anything even vaguely awkward, he will blow his top. He always does. Maybe he'll suffer an aneurysm. We can but hope.
 
Jacqueline Harris was partially sighted, required walking sticks, had a bad back and was in constant pain due to arthritis in her neck
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So eminently qualified to go to the front of the jobs queue.

What's most insidious about the tory IDSeology is that they think this is helping people; that by curtailing her benefit and ending her claim (which is done instantly - no grace period) she will immediately be employed. As if employment will rush in like seawater in to a leaking boat.

The reality is that people get their money stopped and then cut adrift with no support and expected to find for themselves. No help at all. No grace period, no support, nothing.

if you're on the WP this means that the protections (such as they are) from the full force of the WP are suddenly removed and they can be compelled by the prtovider to do anything.
 
With you on all that, Awesome Wells, except that I don't think that most of these people truly believe that cutting off benefits really helps (particularly disabled) people back to work - it's just a convenient myth that plays into the other myth that everyone on benefits is a feckless loser for whom not working is a lifestyle choice.
 
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existentialist said:
With you on all that, @AwesomeWells,except that I don't think that most of these people truly believe that cutting off benefits really helps (particularly disabled) people back to work - it's just a convenient myth that plays into the other myth that everyone on benefits is a feckless loser for whom not working is a lifestyle choice.
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What they believe is that welfare gets in the way of someone like Jackie. That's just cruel.

IDS actually believes this, like the yanks his party wants to copy. They think that social security, benefits, are an impediment. Never mind that they themselves receive benefits.
 
Awesome Wells said:
What they believe is that welfare gets in the way of someone like Jackie. That's just cruel.

IDS actually believes this, like the yanks his party wants to copy. They think that social security, benefits, are an impediment. Never mind that they themselves receive benefits.
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I agree with you that the zealot IDS may well believe it - he is both enough of an ideologue and stupid enough to have been able to convince himself that beating someone with a stick to get better works.

But I truly don't believe that the majority of the people involved with the making and implementing of these plans do believe this nonsense. It just serves their ends quite nicely to carry on as if they believe it.

Which, somehow, makes IDS somewhat less evil (a concept I have real trouble with!), and them more cynically evil.

Either way, it's shit, and it should not be allowed to continue.
 
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