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Isn't it odd how people who claim to be about individual freedom are in actual fact brainwashed cultists who subscribe to an irrational ideology completely unrelated to anything resembling reality.
 
Isn't it odd how people who claim to be about individual freedom are in actual fact brainwashed cultists who subscribe to an irrational ideology completely unrelated to anything resembling reality.

I'm not the one on a board where everone agrees with me.
 
You confuse free market with capitalism. A free market would allow for forces such as organised labour to be expressed without the state intervening. A free market would be less 'capitalist' in some senses as it wouldn't have as many large corporations (that can only get so big with state protection).

Utter pants. A "free market" inevitably ends up with huge inefficient monopolies - that is what competition does - left to its own devices "free" markets lead to Coca Cola World with its attendant private police force to keep us in line. Read neo-liberals, they don't really like democracy, it's viewed as a luxury which is okay as long as the plebs can't actually change anything. Far better to have non-democratic elites like the WTO and IMF ensuring we don't deviate from the chosen path.
 
Utter pants. A "free market" inevitably ends up with huge inefficient monopolies - that is what competition does - left to its own devices "free" markets lead to Coca Cola World with its attendant private police force to keep us in line. Read neo-liberals, they don't really like democracy, it's viewed as a luxury which is okay as long as the plebs can't actually change anything. Far better to have non-democratic elites like the WTO and IMF ensuring we don't deviate from the chosen path.

You get huge inefficient monopolies because vested interests of state and the corporations merge. For instance licensing and regulation puts up barriers to entering markets that only large businesses, or wealthy individuals can overcome.

Brand interests are then protected by copyright, and inequality is protected by the state. Take for instance the brand police that now surround state sponsored cultural events like the Olympics or World cup.

The worst merger of state and corporate interests manifest themselves in wars, the East India Company or US neo-con invasion of Iraq.
 
Utter pants. A "free market" inevitably ends up with huge inefficient monopolies - that is what competition does - left to its own devices "free" markets lead to Coca Cola World with its attendant private police force to keep us in line. Read neo-liberals, they don't really like democracy, it's viewed as a luxury which is okay as long as the plebs can't actually change anything. Far better to have non-democratic elites like the WTO and IMF ensuring we don't deviate from the chosen path.

I don't lie WTO or IMF they are state sponsered protections rackets, no better than the mafia.
 
Seeing as a free market as you propose it has never existed, and history shows us that the freer markets are, the more unequal society gets, what do you base your opinion of free markets on?
 
You confuse free market with capitalism. A free market would allow for forces such as organised labour to be expressed without the state intervening. A free market would be less 'capitalist' in some senses as it wouldn't have as many large corporations (that can only get so big with state protection).

"Free markets", modern nation-states and Capitalism are ineluctably interwoven. They don't exist one without the other except in some "golden-age" pre-industrial Edenic fantasy. Your "free market" can't exist without either the justification that Capital gives it, or the intervention of a state to facilitate it.
 
You confuse free market with capitalism. A free market would allow for forces such as organised labour to be expressed without the state intervening. A free market would be less 'capitalist' in some senses as it wouldn't have as many large corporations (that can only get so big with state protection).
"Free Markets" will always end up with a 100% capitalist system,ditto any economy based on market forces.
That's how it works.
 
Rightwing Libertarians, racial nationalists and the worse sort of ultra Leninists tend to be the three groups of politicos that wiil never listen even for a second to alternative views without recourse to abstract un-evidenced propaganda.
 
no,not really,just a horrific one for Tories and LibDems

Well the good people of Barnsley never were going to be happy to hear they'd have to live by their own graft again rather than being bankrolled by Londoners. It's just a shame that our voting system, and central funding of council spending, means we have to care what they think.
 
You confuse free market with capitalism. A free market would allow for forces such as organised labour to be expressed without the state intervening. A free market would be less 'capitalist' in some senses as it wouldn't have as many large corporations (that can only get so big with state protection).

Yes, we'd have privately funded gangs of armed thugs, accountable only to the bosses who pay them, smashing picket lines. This is clearly far better than the publically funded armed thugs we have now, who are at least subject to some degree of democratic accountability.

You, sir, are an utter cunt. May you die slowly and in extreme agony.
 
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