Libertarian Party Uk

[Rohen]

For all of you with a distaste of the collectivist three main parties

Here is the Libertarian party of the UK

Website here


Im standing in Hornsey and Wood Green

manifesto here

 

[Blagsta]

I do wish you lot would stop misusing the word "libertarian".

 

[butchersapron]

For all of you with a distaste of the collectivist three main parties

Here is the Libertarian party of the UK

Website here


Im standing in Hornsey and Wood Green

manifesto here

fuck off

 

[rekil]

A fist of dicks or what.

 

[Blagsta]

that pic is hilarious!

 

[rekil]

I bet the small beady eyed lipless one is a particularly cunty individual.

 

[bluestreak]

I dunno, the guy with the long hair looks like a compulsive masturbator.

 

[strung out]

i think the one on the left is a friend of someone i went to uni with.

 

[Fedayn]

The t-shirt wearing tool is a Taxpayers Alliance gobshite I think.

 

[strung out]

the one on the left is. also a fully paid up member of the tory party

 

[FridgeMagnet]

bloody students

 

[strung out]

the funny thing is i recognise the one on the left because he turned up on my facebook feed a few months ago, in this guy i went to uni with's photo album. i thought he looked like a proper twat back then

 

[Fedayn]

A fist of dicks or what.

On the left of the photo Tim Aker

2nd left of the photo Mark Wallace

 

[strung out]

yup, that's him. where does that photo come from anyway?

 

[Fedayn]

yup, that's him. where does that photo come from anyway?

Dunno where it comes from, freaky though.

 

[rekil]

yup, that's him. where does that photo come from anyway?

Here. The other two cunts are tories too apparently.

 

[strung out]

this gives me an idea for a thread actually, thought occured to me a few months ago looking at this photo album about how you can tell a tory so easily just from a photo. they just have this certain look that makes you want to punch them in the face

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Come on Tim!

BTW, who's the Diego lookalikey? (Maradona that is)

 

[bluestreak]

Talk about idealogically inconsistent. They haven't a clue. About as together as some teenager who think anarchism and nihilism are the same thing.

 

[Blagsta]

Ayn Rand fans. 'nuff said.

 

[Azrael]

They have sensible things to say in their law and order page. The economic policies look like pretty strict laissez faire liberalism, which isn't my thing at all, but "libertarian" is a fair description of their platform.

But like all toy parties, they won't get anywhere, so their suitability for government is an irrelevance.

 

[Blagsta]

"libertarian" is a fair description of their platform.

Only if you use the bastardised US definition, dating from the 1970's. The word has a much longer useage, meaning anarchist, dating back to the 1850s.

 

[Azrael]

It also means someone who supports liberty. Even if the other definition is newer, language evolves. They want to limit detention without charge to 48 hours and stop warrantless house searches, indicating that they both understand and support liberty.

Not that any of this matters, save on a hypothetical level.

 

[Blagsta]

It also means someone who supports liberty. Even if the other definition is newer, language evolves. They want to limit detention without charge to 48 hours and stop warrantless house searches, indicating that they both understand and support liberty.

Not that any of this matters, save on a hypothetical level.

It has a particular political meaning. It does not mean free market capitalism - which is anathema to liberty anyway.

 

[gosub]

Talk about idealogically inconsistent. They haven't a clue. About as together as some teenager who think anarchism and nihilism are the same thing.

I remember having an arguement with Proffessor Chris Tame who was leader of that lot at the time (is dead now). Was on a eurosceptic yahoo group, and he was banging on pro capital punishment. So i threw John Stuart Mills at him, whose thoughts he claimed were outdated and discredited. Personally I couldn't see how the 3 central planks of On Liberty could be outdated, and in fact might dig out his ideas for a post monetary society given the way things have been going, but what was most confusing was the fact all his posts had a JS Mills quote as signature. Can't remeber which one but made for a remarkable post, well made me giggle anyway.

 

[Herbert Read]

An LPUK member with his made, David:

 

[Azrael]

I remember having an arguement with Proffessor Chris Tame who was leader of that lot at the time (is dead now). Was on a eurosceptic yahoo group, and he was banging on pro capital punishment. So i threw John Stuart Mills at him, whose thoughts he claimed were outdated and discredited.

Presumably he didn't think this JSM wisdom was outdated!

"Just as unreasonable is it to think that to take the life of a man who has taken that of another is to show want of regard for human life. We show, on the contrary, most emphatically our regard for it, by the adoption of a rule that he who violates that right in another forfeits it for himself, and that while no other crime that he can commit deprives him of his right to live, this shall."

It has a particular political meaning. It does not mean free market capitalism - which is anathema to liberty anyway.

"Civil libertarianism", to give one example, is an old phrase, and inherently political. As to whether free market capitalism is anathema to liberty, that's a matter of opinion that no dictionary can settle.

 

[Blagsta]

Free market fundies have only been using the word since the 1970s. Before that it has been synonym for anarchism. This isn't a matter of opinion Azrael.

 

[Azrael]

I'm happy to believe that, but as I said, meanings evolve, and variations on the word "liberty" has been adopted by goodness knows how many causes over the years.

 

[Blagsta]

You're right, meanings evolve, but this hasn't. It's a deliberate attempt to distort history.