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Something interesting I've noticed here - news of the British election is being censored, in particular news about Corbyn being a socialist.

From searching on Baidu, there are references to Corbyn being a socialist in some minor news articles during 2015 when he became leader, and again in 2016 when he survived the coup. However, since 2017 all articles about the election make no mention of the word "socialist," and a page I subscribe to on Wechat called 英国那些事儿, which has daily updates about news relating to the UK, has only one article about the election, where the main focus is on it being the Brexit election. (but still posts lots of stuff about Trump for some reason) It would seem that an order has been given to restrict reporting on Corbyn.

From this we can infer - a resurgent socialism in the West puts the CCP in a very awkward position.
 
Sabre rattling between India and China worth paying attention to.

First, this grauniad article gives a fairly objective summary of the stand off between India and China in the Himalayas. The Chinese have been building a road through disputed territory in what China claims is its own and India and Bhutan claim is Bhutanese territory. Indian and Chinese troops have been facing off there for several weeks now.

Chinese and Indian troops face off in Bhutan border dispute

However, this apparently minor border issue is part of a much greater regional rivalry. The real issue here is China's One Belt One Road and Maritime Silk Road project, which is an attempt by China to create an economic area through central Asia, mostly via a system of infrastructure projects and trade agreements, and also to establish a network of ports into Africa, via South East Asia and Sudan. Pakistan has a key role to play in this, and China is promising infrastructural investment into Pakistan to create the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, and give China access to the Indian Ocean via the Gwadar Port.

This project has not only inflamed tensions on the India-China-Bhutan border, but also in Kashmir, due to China building a road there with agreement from Pakistan but not from India, who considers the road construction to be a violation of their sovereignty. You can read more at this article in The Diplomat:

For Kashmir, CPEC Highlights Divisions

Another flashpoint relating to this is opposition to the Gwadar Port and CPEC from militant Baloch separatists. The Gwadar Port is in Balochistan, a part of Pakistan with an active seperatist insurgency. Baloch militants have condemned the project, and there have been numerous attacks targeted at sabotaging the project over the last couple of years.

https://www.theglobalist.com/china-pakistan-obor-asia/
“This conspiratorial plan (CPEC) is not acceptable to the Baloch people under any circumstances. Baloch independence movements have made it clear several times that they will not abandon their people’s future in the name of development projects or even democracy,” said Baloch Liberation Army spokesman Jeander Baloch.

Mr. Baloch spoke after two attacks by different groups in the last 96 hours.

One targeted workers toiling on CPEC-related projects. In the other attack, Senator Abdul Ghafoor Haideri — the deputy chairman of the upper house of parliament and a member of Jamiat e Ulema Islam, a right-wing Sunni Islamist political party — sustained minor injuries.

The attack on the workers exploited widespread discontent among Baloch that they are not benefitting from massive Chinese investment in their province that provides employment primarily for workers from elsewhere in Pakistan. The victims of the were from the Pakistani province of Sindh.

While widely condemned, the attack went to the core of problems with China’s execution of its One Belt, One Road initiative detailed in the leaked plan for Pakistan.

The insurgency is likely to intensify as opposition to CPEC grows. China has tried to keep the terms of CPEC secret, but some documents were leaked recently that have proven highly controversial, and seem to indicate an attempt by China to colonise the country culturally, influence Pakistani media, set up a surveillance state, and repeating tactics used by the British East India Company to dominate the country - indebt the country, build infrastructure projects, use them to take resources out of the country, and then use the raw materials to assemble products which would then be sold back to Pakistan. Details of the leak have been summarised in the Pakistani English language news site Dawn:

Exclusive: CPEC master plan revealed - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

This story from the same site elaborates concerns about CPEC becoming a new British East India Company: https://www.dawn.com/news/1290677/cpec-could-become-another-east-india-company

In what is probably the most breath-takingly hypocritical article I have ever read, the abrasive CCP mouthpiece Global Times, a paper whose English language site is often used to send indirect political messages, published an article seemingly threatening to support a (presently non-existent) independence movement in Sikkim, the small region of India between Bhutan and Nepal and north of Bangladesh, which if independent could almost cut the North East of India off from the rest of the country.

China can rethink stance on Sikkim, Bhutan - Global Times

In Chinese media lately there have been a lot of articles playing up the idea of Sikkim being oppressed and colonised by India, and I wonder if the Chinese government are considering attempting to destabilise it. It does seem like they are clutching at straws though, struggling to find anything other than an rather dubious claim that India's annexation of Sikkim in 1975 has led to widespread suicide and drug abuse and interviewing some people who say they feel sad that people in other parts of India make fun of their bad Hindi and don't know where Sikkim is on the map. They even acknowledge that many younger people are unaware that Sikkim used to be an independent state, and that there is no existing movement for independence. It is really an incredibly stupid article actually. Read here:
Forty-two years after merging, are people in Sikkim happy to be Indian? - Global Times

However, Global Times is a pretty reliable reflection of the current thinking in the CCP, and while they may struggle to find many allies (least of all in Bhutan, a Buddhist nation which has abysmal relations with China and is home to many Tibetan exiles) it does suggest that they are at least thinking about attempting to initiate some kind of anti-Indian insurgency. However, China's brash nationalism and repression of Tibetan Buddhism does make it seem very unlikely that they will be able to turn Bhutanese or Sikkimese against India.

Finally, the other flashpoint between India and China is in the Indian ocean, where there is a naval build up of both Chinese and Indian ships. China had planned to build a port in Hambantota, Sri Lanka as part of the Maritime Silk Road, but its future is a little uncertain after mass protests and change in government. A struggle for influence over Sri Lanka is likely, and in the coming years I think we can expect to see India playing a more assertive diplomatic role in the region to counter OBOR.
 
Other news this week: Bloomberg report that the CCP have ordered all VPNs to be blocked by February 2018, and also, while being previously fairly relaxed about homosexuality, new restrictions have been brought in on portrayal of homosexual lifestyles, and gay vloggers and so on have all been shut down.

Bad crack. Xi is resurrecting ultra-conservative Confucianism. The nickname Xi Dada - which we can approximately translate as Uncle Xi, or Father Xi, is being promoted in state media, which somewhat ties into the Confucian worldview, with Xi as patriarch. It is also suspected that he does not intend to step down after the 10 year term limit which Hu and Jiang abided by - unlike them, he has not been seen to have been grooming any potential successors, and he has centralised power to the extent (and there was never much accountability anyway) that nobody could or would really stop him if he decided to stay on. He still has five years left so we will have to wait and see, there could be a backlash yet, but he is already well on the way to establishing a dictatorial personality cult.

I also think that they are deliberately trying to drive foreigners out the country, which closing VPNs will certainly do. Directly banning foreigners would cause an outcry so they just make things so difficult for them that they leave of their own accord.
 
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So, India and Japan are making their own trade agreement to compete with China's OBOR strategy, emphasising quality, multi-lateralism, transparency, and democracy as the main selling points to outdo what China is offering.

I think that this is likely to overshadow China's OBOR because of the Chinese government's incredible ability to make enemies, the neo-colonial nature of some of its proposed projects, and the poorly concealed ambitions for hegemony.

This economic area proposed by Japan and India will prove to be an incredible headache for Xi Jinping, who seems to have the ambition to be remembered as the one who returned China to its supposedly rightful place as world hegemon. The narrative, from Xi's perspective, can be understood like this - China is the world's oldest and greatest civilisation, and was always the wealthiest and most advanced civilisation until sometime in the 1800s when it fell behind in the "century of humiliation," destroyed by upstart nations with technology but lacking in the superior culture that comes from China's supposedly uniquely long 5000 years of history. Then, the glorious Communist Party was founded, Mao liberated China ending her humiliation, and then Deng made China rich, and the next major step is to be Xi making China the next global superpower - thus returning things to the natural order, ending China's humiliation for good and ultimately being remembered as greater than both Mao and Deng. The OBOR strategy should be understood in this light.

This is part of the reason for Xi's campaign against western "universal values" and revival of Confucianism. If China is history's greatest civilisation, it is not right that it should emulate the political system of inferior cultures - I've started to notice a lot of propaganda slogans calling for patriotism and "confidence in our system". What is happening under Xi is a synthesis of the CCP neo-Leninist structure with Xi's own take on Confucianism. That is, everyone has a fixed role in a hierarchy - the CCP are the enlightened rulers, selected by a meritocratic system, and their virtue gives them the right to rule without question. The apparent rollback on gender equality and, more recently, homosexuality, probably relate to reviving the Confucian idea of the family, or more likely, homosexuality and feminism are too strongly associated with western liberalism to be acceptable. Based on the leaked plan for China Pakistan Economic Corridor, it also appears that China plans to spread its own supposedly superior system to undermine the dominance of democratic ideals, first starting with weak and corrupt central Asian autocracies such as Pakistan and the former Soviet republics.

The problem with this plan is that it is utterly delusional and hubristic, and is a consequence of the CCP closing off outside influences and believing their own propaganda. Due to its lack of soft power and off-putting political system, China is not as strong as Xi believes it to be. Despite the history they learn of China throughout history being a sagely beacon of peace and wisdom admired and envied by all for its superior culture, this has never really been the case - it may at certain times have been the largest medieval economy, but only because it was also the largest in area and population, and even then India was often richer and more culturally influential. (Buddhism and Daoism spread to China, but Confucianism didn't spread to India - and don't get me started on how ludicrous the claim to somehow have a longer history than anywhere else is) In fact China's political system is deeply unattractive and unappealing, and an ideology based entirely on nationalism and a belief in your own inherent cultural superiority has little universal appeal beyond those who are part of the supposedly superior culture. The weakness of this strategy is also a consequence of the CCP's absolute authority - "no why" is a running joke among foreigners in China because it is encountered so often whenever you try to find out why you have been ordered to do some seemingly pointless or random task. People are expected to obey the leaders, and not to question the purpose, logic, necessity, or efficiency of the activity. This produces a leadership who are singularly bad at persuasion, as they are not used to ever having to explain themselves. The criticism of OBOR for being too vague and lacking in transparency is a symptom of this problem.

As I said earlier in the thread - the same forces of globalisation that allowed China to develop through technological transfer and a large pool of cheap labour are now working against it - as costs of operating in China rise, many low waged manufacturing companies, such as Foxconn, are now setting up shop in India instead. By over-reaching and acting arrogant and hypocritical towards its neighbours, China has succeeded only in mobilising India and Japan into an alliance to counter-act China's masterplan and to prevent it achieving dominance, something which is quite possibly an existential threat for Japan. This alliance is highly likely to steal OBOR's thunder, as a consequence of Xi Jinping successfully alienating South Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, the Philippines, Myanmar, and behaving imperiously in Africa. Additionally, the crackdown in Xinjiang and rise of Islamophobia - a consequence of state propaganda designed to show how western liberal multiculturalism was destroying western society by letting terrorists in - may also cause problems in winning over the Muslim regions, and militants have already been targeting Chinese workers and projects in Pakistan. Again, the CCP leadership is not used to the idea of not being able to control information, and of people's opinions of what they do actually having a material impact.

The coming backlash against, and failure of, OBOR - something which I think is highly likely - will be enormously damaging to Xi Jinping, as this project has been hyped to extremes, linked heavily to him, and propaganda about how great it will be is ubiquitous. So a failure will not escape people's attention and will be hugely damaging as a national humiliation. Combined with the possibility of an economic crisis and China's first recession since the Great Leap Forward, there could be a perfect storm ahead which could threaten CCP rule. If India's population overtakes China's, as it is projected to by 2022, and if India's economic growth continues to outpace China's for an extended period of time while China is in crisis or stagnation, and if India outmaneuvers China geopolitically, that will also be a tremendous blow to the Sinocentric worldview and belief in the inevitability of Chinese hegemony. The image of China taught in history books is of as a peaceful power (every war in Chinese history is rewritten as defensive) whose power lay it its Confucian virtue which others would seek to emulate. China's soft power fail - as a result of its unattractive political system, as some people will doubtless start to realise - would also be a huge blow to this worldview.

It will take decades probably, but a combination of these factors is likely to spell the end of the CCP - I hope by the 2030s but that may be overly optimistic, and I'm afraid that when things start going bad the CCP will claim there is a plot to destroy China and lash out militarily, which would be very worrying indeed.

This article below gives more information about the Asia-Africa Growth Corridor, the Indo-Japanese economic plan which stands a good chance of foiling Chinese plans for hegemony:

India and Japan's AAGC vs China's OBOR

This article in The Diplomat also gives more information about the project, although strangely doesn't mention OBOR or China at all, even though the purpose of the AAGC is clearly to scupper Chinese plans for dominance.

Thinking Africa: India, Japan, and the Asia-Africa Growth Corridor
 
Good posts. I noticed the other month in Hongers that there were far more calls for patriotism in the press in the run up/ follow up of the recent elections. Its is subtle drip from the mainland that has got a little bit more frequent of late

Soldiers from the Chinese naval giant Liaoning spread patriotism in Hong Kong

China’s Xi Jinping recalls national 'humiliation' to Britain as he seeks to stir patriotism in Hong Kong

This above for eg : Lots of talk of patriotism at every possible opportunity
 
Good posts. I noticed the other month in Hongers that there were far more calls for patriotism in the press in the run up/ follow up of the recent elections. Its is subtle drip from the mainland that has got a little bit more frequent of late

Soldiers from the Chinese naval giant Liaoning spread patriotism in Hong Kong

China’s Xi Jinping recalls national 'humiliation' to Britain as he seeks to stir patriotism in Hong Kong

This above for eg : Lots of talk of patriotism at every possible opportunity

Yeah. The insidious thing with the promotion of patriotism is that China Dream bollocks - people are always made to give speeches about "my China dream," students are made to write essays about it do dances about it and things like that. The goal of it seems to be to make people associate their personal ambitions with "the China dream," a concept which is then also tied to the fate of the nation, Xi Jinping, and OBOR. This has the effect of making people feel personally offended when you criticise the government, as any criticism of the government becomes a criticism of China, becomes a criticism of them personally. (not everyone is this gullible thankfully, but you do have to watch your tongue and know who you are talking to. And of course this is not just from the China Dream stuff, but from the Party's control of the media and education system, which emphasis patriotism and Chineseness above everything, and try to repress the development of competing identities. But the China Dream stuff is a good example of how they are trying to tie the hopes of individuals together with the hopes of the nation.) I was made to write an essay about "My China Dream" when I first started my course here, and I confounded it by writing some stuff about my belief in internationalism and how building cross-cultural understanding is a step towards ending the concept of nations. Didn't get invited to read mine out at the welcome ceremony, lol.

There's a good paper here which discusses the role of the China Dream in creating a personality cult about Xi Jinping, that I think correlates with my own experiences.

Creating the Cult of Xi Jinping: The Chinese Dream as a Leader Symbol
 
Seriously though, Brits and Americans are always banging on a bout how Great and Exceptional we all are, what a unique contribution we've made toward freedom and the progress of the world (that we built) and stuff like that. How is the Chinese version significantly different? Isn't patriotism always about articulating a sense of being part of something bigger than oneself so that the flag becomes an extension of ones own ego?
 
I would suggest that the accepted Confuscist aspect of this policy both guides and acts as a loose and manipulated leitmotif to focus power that we do not have in the West- there is no equivalent really - the perspective has been an ever present in Chinese politics for x centuries and quite distinctive ( outside Islam but very crudely obvs)
 
Seriously though, Brits and Americans are always banging on a bout how Great and Exceptional we all are, what a unique contribution we've made toward freedom and the progress of the world (that we built) and stuff like that. How is the Chinese version significantly different? Isn't patriotism always about articulating a sense of being part of something bigger than oneself so that the flag becomes an extension of ones own ego?

I'm sorry, but it really is different. The state in China considers all identities apart from national ones to be a threat. Being part of a subculture is seen as a threat ffs, so recently a punk music festival in some bar in my city got shut down by the police.

Minor example - a Chinese student in the US says something about free speech and fresh air. The Communist Party controlled Chinese Students and Scholars Association organises a campaign of bullying and harrassment on campus, calling her a race traitor, whore, saying she isn't welcome back in China, and wishing death on her. No doubt her family in China face consequences. Is this the same as the US and UK? Really? And for what it is worth, foreign students in China are always pushed into writing essays or making speeches with titles that basically push you into talking about how great China is, and then anything they write that suggests China's superiority is weaponised for use in domestic propaganda.

And universities in the UK and the USA are chock full of critiques of our history and culture, but in China history is tightly controlled, and there is very little independent research or wider reading allowed at universities and most of it is rote learning from one set text. History is rewritten to tell one narrative and it cannot be challenged, a Chinese Howard Zinn would certainly have his life ruined for writing critical history. A stupid example is that when I tried to find that animated map showing all of world history from the Sumerians onwards I discovered that it is blocked in China, and you can only find animated maps showing the past 1000 years of European history - going back to the Minoans and Ancient Greece would challenge the view of China's uniqueness so it is forbidden. The Mongol conquest of China (the Yuan dynasty) is also rewritten so it appears that the Mongol Empire was China's Empire, and all offensive wars are removed from Chinese history. We are to believe that China has only ever been peaceful and defensive, and the 50 odd non-Han cultures all voluntarily joined the Empire because they were so impressed by its splendour. In contrast, Americans encounter arguments about how the country was founded on genocide of natives and slavery from a young age, and while some may not like to hear them the facts are not concealed and arguing it will not you fired, expelled, arrested, or sent to a mental asylum. Same for the British Empire, some people have romantic ideas of it but the dark side is not hidden and a large part of the UK, probably a significant majority, are in fact pretty realistic in their view about what it was. Even its defenders usually acknowledge that we did plenty of terrible things, but claim the good outweighs the bad. In China, the dark side is forbidden and denied, hidden from public view, and anything bringing into doubt the rose-tinted view is unwise to mention in public.

Another minor example of the difference is that in my graduation ceremony the Vice-Dean of the University called on us to go forth and spread Chinese culture, especially those students from OBOR related countries. Would an American university instruct their exchange students to return to their country to spread American culture and support American interests? The British Empire circa 1870, maybe, but the world has changed since then. Sorry, but Chinese and American or British exceptionalism are just not remotely comparable in degree, intensity, and nature.

Camouflage, honestly I know where you are coming from - part of the reason I started studying Chinese in the first place was kind of related to my opposition to western imperialism, and for quite some time - until the last year or two really - I used to always try to find a way to explain away or justify China's behaviour. But it is getting harder and harder, the old line they used to trot out was "things are changing, China has a long history so change must come slowly, be patient." Now that under Xi they have dropped that pretense and claim that the CCP's increasingly racist and totalitarian rule is superior to all systems it is getting very difficult to defend. And frankly I feel like I was duped for believing the "things are changing" line. The CCP had no intention of changing, it was all just a line to attract investment and deal with people complaining, or if there was a faction who truly believed that they have all been crushed under Xi's ever-tightening fist. So if I seem a little bitter... yeah, I am, I spent the past 10 years emotionally invested in this country, and I feel like for much of that time I've been played for a sucker - all the long termers here are equally jaded and making plans to get the fuck out too. If you came here, it would happen to you too.

Oh, and additionally, your defense of the CCP out of a misplaced anti-imperialism would just have you derided as "白左," baizuo or "white left." Look it up.
 
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Sorry for posting so much stuff here, but this is worth a look into and may well be a big part of the reason behind the decision to clamp down on VPNs and the tightening of restrictions on foreigners.

This guy seems like a bit of a hero to me - his brother was murdered in the 1989 demonstrations, and since then he has been patiently infiltrating the higher echelons of the party and detailing information of their corruption and intelligence activities as part of a masterplan to topple them and avenge his brothers death.

If there is a major financial crisis, the dodgy investments and hoarding of ill-gotten gains stashed overseas by high level officials could unravel and be exposed, turning a disaster for the CCP into an apocalypse for the CCP.

China's Spy Network in United States Includes 25,000 Intelligence Officers

Global Times' response is to claim that he "obtained made-up information through bribery." Uhm, if the info is made up why did he pay money for it? Why not just make it up? So deperate to smear him in every way they don't realise they can't have it both ways, mental.

Guo Wengui makes up stories from illegally obtained info - Global Times
 
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Good posts Rimbaud. I can't imagine what it's like to live in China and your posts are very informative. Not trying to teach you to suck eggs but disagree with the following.
In contrast, Americans encounter arguments about how the country was founded on genocide of natives and slavery from a young age, and while some may not like to hear them the facts are not concealed and arguing it will not you fired, expelled, arrested, or sent to a mental asylum. Same for the British Empire, some people have romantic ideas of it but the dark side is not hidden and a large part of the UK, probably a significant majority, are in fact pretty realistic in their view about what it was. Even its defenders usually acknowledge that we did plenty of terrible things, but claim the good outweighs the bad. In China, the dark side is forbidden and denied, hidden from public view, and anything bringing into doubt the rose-tinted view is unwise to mention in public.
Very few Americans are taught about "genocide of natives and slavery from a young age". "Official" line is that the Native Americans went extinct and that the Europeans settled empty land.

Same thing with the UK here. Very few people are taught at school about the Bengal famines or the Potato famine. Or the use of Concentration Camps by the British in the Boer War.

All the history is there in the open. But few people read it.
Another minor example of the difference is that in my graduation ceremony the Vice-Dean of the University called on us to go forth and spread Chinese culture, especially those students from OBOR related countries. Would an American university instruct their exchange students to return to their country to spread American culture and support American interests? The British Empire circa 1870, maybe, but the world has changed since then. Sorry, but Chinese and American or British exceptionalism are just not remotely comparable in degree, intensity, and nature.
American culture is the dominant world culture. It's actively spread by Hollywood, advertising, NGO's etc. Why would they need to instruct their exchange students to do it?
 
Good posts Rimbaud. I can't imagine what it's like to live in China and your posts are very informative. Not trying to teach you to suck eggs but disagree with the following.

Very few Americans are taught about "genocide of natives and slavery from a young age". "Official" line is that the Native Americans went extinct and that the Europeans settled empty land.

Same thing with the UK here. Very few people are taught at school about the Bengal famines or the Potato famine. Or the use of Concentration Camps by the British in the Boer War.

All the history is there in the open. But few people read it.

American culture is the dominant world culture. It's actively spread by Hollywood, advertising, NGO's etc. Why would they need to instruct their exchange students to do it?

They aren't taught about it as part of any syllabus, (as far as I know) but knowledge of it is widespread enough in society that most people will hear about it by the time they are teens. I've never met an American who is unaware of slavery and of the natives getting a raw deal. But many Chinese have never heard of China going to war against Vietnam only a few decades ago, or if they have they believe that Vietnam was the aggressor. And talking about it could get you in trouble. There is a world of difference between not being taught in school and the information being forbidden and disseminating it being dangerous. Posting on a forum in China requires registration through a telephone number, so not only will they delete your post for spreading un-pc information but if you persist they wil find you. They are also setting up sesame credit bullshit, which is basically a cross between DDR informant network, credit rating, and that Black Mirror episode where your social status is tied to how many likes you get. Most chillingly, being associated with people with low sesame credit will effect your sesame credit negatively, and ratting people out will boost it. It is so unbelievably fucked up.

American culture is spread by Hollywood, yeah. But would Germany, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Brazil, India, expect foreign exchange students to work as their agents? Hard to imagine. Western entertainment is popular in China, and in large part because political interference means China produces little worthwhile popular culture. There are some good indie bands but they have a hard time because the scene is eyed with suspicion, (Song Dongye, one of my favourite Chinese folk singers - his song Banma, banma is pretty good if you're interested - had his career ended for getting caught with some weed, and the hip hop outfit in3 got banned for a lyric about how "some eat out on oublic money, some sleep under bridges") and it is no coincidence that thr majority of the internationally acclaimed Chinese movies are, or have been, banned in China, including early movies by Zhang Yimou, director of the Beijing 2008 opening ceremony. Hong Kong and Taiwan have made a greater contribution to world culture through their cinema than all of the CCP controlled mainland - state controlled X Factor style reality shows effectively dominate the music industry, and the TV is at least 80% reality tv/talent shows, anti-Japanese war movies, and costume dramas set during the Tang Dynasty. Maybe 90%. There seems to be efforts to discourage people from watching western movies too much, but so long as the CCP are in power China cannot develop creative industries in a meaningful way, or have "soft power" based on anything but bullying and throwing money at things.

Really we should not be defending the system or drawing equivalency with the west - it is a fascist state ideologically and economically, do not be fooled by the claims to represent Chinese culture, or to have anything to do with socialism or anti-imperialism whatsoever. When I was first in China, I used to contradict people who seemed to idealise the west by saying stuff like "oh our press is controlled by business, it isn't really free either" and so on, and I still see a lot of people who are here for maybe a year saying such similar stuff out of a desire to be open minded or out of antagonism towards western capitalism, but after being here longer and seeing the direction things are going, I feel really bad for making those arguments earlier because a) it is not true, they are not remotely comparable and b) the Chinese state likes to give the impression that every country has the same tight control of ideology, and many Chinese assume that their websites are also blocked in the west. By acting like the imperfections in western democracy are equal to the absence of pluralism in China, you are normalising it and essentially saying fascism and liberal democracy are basically the same thing.
 
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Other news this week: Bloomberg report that the CCP have ordered all VPNs to be blocked by February 2018, and also, while being previously fairly relaxed about homosexuality, new restrictions have been brought in on portrayal of homosexual lifestyles, and gay vloggers and so on have all been shut down.

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Seeing bunch of reports on social media that yesterday a comprehensive amount of foreign video/tv content on Chinese video sharing sites has been removed
 
Seeing bunch of reports on social media that yesterday a comprehensive amount of foreign video/tv content on Chinese video sharing sites has been removed

Yeah. I just logged back into urban to post that now. Literally happened today, I didn't even know when I posted this morning about how party interference keeps China's entertainment industry abysmal.

I really hope they are over-reaching and will cause a backlash. For many young Chinese, Bilibili is a huge part of their life, most students spend a significant part of their leisure time sitting in dormitories watching tv shows on bilibili, and as Chinese TV is mostly abysmal the loss of quality foreign dramas will not go unnoticed.

The thing is, by making expression of dissent dangerous, the CCP overestimate their popularity. University students have to write essays about their love for the party but privately think it is ridiculous and just copy it from the internet, noone checks or cares anyway. The party is the sun and we are the flowers that grow, that sort of nonsense. A lot of people have told me that they privately hate them but they usually believe everyone else loves them. I reckon the party also has no way of gauging opposition to it until it reaches critical mass.

Anyway here is a link to the story.

Harmony Strikes Again: Foreign Video Content Purged From Streaming Sites AcFun and Bilibili
 
What's that? I can't load it on my phone easily. Makes me nervous though, the way things are changing here quite quickly is making me quite paranoid. I only have 8 days left, can't come soon enough.
it's the american army's 'operational environment watch', published by the foreign military studies office at fort leavenworth
 
So, just to report - there is much outrage about bilibili. Xi was super popular yesterday and it seems he has become super hated overnight, at least amongst the young educated demographics I have contact with. Bit of a turning point.

I guess this is an attempt to control things ahead of the likely unavoidable coming crisis. But all it seems to have done is sow distrust and resentment - when the economy crashes (based on the current crackdowns, I am convinced that it is when not if, doesn't make sense otherwise) things could kick off. We're probably talking a couple of years from now, but stay tuned.
 
What does it say, and why did you post it? I can't load the page, it is blocked.
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it says the chinese and cubans have strengthened their military ties
 
So, just to report - there is much outrage about bilibili. Xi was super popular yesterday and it seems he has become super hated overnight, at least amongst the young educated demographics I have contact with. Bit of a turning point.

I guess this is an attempt to control things ahead of the likely unavoidable coming crisis. But all it seems to have done is sow distrust and resentment - when the economy crashes (based on the current crackdowns, I am convinced that it is when not if, doesn't make sense otherwise) things could kick off. We're probably talking a couple of years from now, but stay tuned.

fingers crossed aye.
 
Oh, and additionally, your defense of the CCP out of a misplaced anti-imperialism would just have you derided as "白左," baizuo or "white left." Look it up.

Goddamnit, not this again.

Anyway they can call me strawberry jello if they wanted to, people don't always understand their own societies from within (I know we don't tend to). I'm not saying you're wrong, although you let slip a few blind-spots above. I'm glad to get you to explain how it's different though... to be fair I don't really think comparing China and the West is a matter of being anti-imperialist... I do slag off Western imperialism a lot but this isn't about that. The people of Papua New Guinea or Poland aren't empires but probably also have their own blind-spots where they don't always recognize the same stuff they do when they see it expressed in other cultures.
 
Goddamnit, not this again.

Anyway they can call me strawberry jello if they wanted to, people don't always understand their own societies from within (I know we don't tend to). I'm not saying you're wrong, although you let slip a few blind-spots above. I'm glad to get you to explain how it's different though... to be fair I don't really think comparing China and the West is a matter of being anti-imperialist... I do slag off Western imperialism a lot but this isn't about that. The people of Papua New Guinea or Poland aren't empires but probably also have their own blind-spots where they don't always recognize the same stuff they do when they see it expressed in other cultures.

Aye fair does. It's good to try and see things from a different perspective - if I seem to have blind spots about the west that is a consequence of living in a country which actively punishes trying to see things from a different perspective, which tends to give one a more rosy view of western pluralism, (political) liberalism, and liberal education system. We do have a liberal education system which I have grown to appreciate a lot. The study of Marx here is literally just remembering by rote passages of text from a textbook and copying from memory in the exam, or filling in the blanks. I have copies of all the official national Marxist/Mao Zedong Thought and Socialism With Chinese Characteristics/Moral Cultivation textbooks, and I can see how the CCP runs a capitalist economy while teaching Marxism without people noticing the contradiction. People learn to recite selected Marxist maxims, but aren't taught to understand the logic behind it. E.g. they are taught that overproduction is something that happens in capitalist countries, but not taught the mechanism by which overproduction happens. So no connection is made between Marxist teachings about overproduction and imperialism, China's market economy, and OBOR as a way to dump China's steel production overcapacity. And the teaching is so abstract with no real world examples given, meaning that most people do not draw any connection between the doctrine they learn for exams and the society they live in. Marxism is also jumbled in with the teachings of Chinese leaders and is hard to untangle the two - my impression is that Marxism is basically stripped down to a vulgar materialism, which serves to bolster the CCP's technocratic rule and "scientific outlook on development."

Anyway, more worrying news in China today, and I haven't even mentioned Liu Xiaobo. From today, social media accounts with over 30,000 followers are being forced to register with the government to promote harmonious dissemination of information.

Also, the party boss of my city, Sun Zhengcai, successor of purged leftist Bo Xilai (whose supporters have been decimated by the anti-corruption campaign over the last five years) and vaunted as a possible successor to Xi has also just been purged. Xi seems intent on stamping out anyone who is a threat to his authority.

Possible Successor to China’s Xi Jinping Is Removed From Party Post
 
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Some of that report seems to be incorrect - my wechat Winnie the Pooh stickers are still working as normal - but it could well be blocked on a provincial level, or they blocked the stickers (which are among the most popular and widely used emoticons) for a brief period of time before realising that it draws too much attention to a truly laughable policy and then unblocked them.

Latest news in the internet crackdown is that What's app is blocked now, meaning there are no widely used IM services with encryption left - all conversations on wechat are logged and can be used against you if you get in trouble. I guess it was only a matter of time...

Anecdotally, there seems to be a backlash against Xi from some demographics at least - I have a friend who is proudly 红二代, red second generation, which basically means she is the child of party officials. Usually she can be expected to parrot the party line on absolutely everything but she dislikes Xi and worries about becoming like North Korea. Likewise a few people I've spoken to feel chilled about VPNs being blocked. This is still a relatively small group of people who use VPNs, but they are a demographic with oversized influence in academia, business, the arts, media, science, and in the context of an economic crisis and intensifying class conflicts, not having them on side could prove fatal for the party.
 
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Xi Jinping is really a piece of shit. I absolutely detest the fucker.

Some takeaways from the Congress:

Xi Jinping has set a goal to make China a world superpower by 2050. Xi Jinping Poised to Put His Stamp on Chinese History

This is interesting, because it actually reveals a lack of confidence. It is a way of subtly lowering people's expectations. You could even say that China is already a superpower, or on the cusp of it, so why set a date of 2050, more than 30 years in the future? And only to be A superpower, not THE superpower.

Because China has a mountain of problems which are all coming to a head at once in the following decade. Setting a date for 2050 is basically pre-empting the unraveling of those problems and offering a kind of "light at the end of the tunnel."

This is also why they are clamping down so tightly now; Xi has purged all his opponents under the guise of an "anti-corruption" campaign, exerted tight control over the Communist Youth League (which served as a kind of alternative faction to the "Princelings") turned Xinjiang into a total police state, (I can't even contact my Uighur friends now, and I have heard troubling rumours of people being rounded up en-mass into re-education camps) tightened control over the media and education system, tightened control of social media (and started, terrifyingly, using AI which can and has got people arrested for stuff they say in private conversations on messaging apps), and started pushing to install party cells in every single private company. Because shit is about to come to a head and the Communist Party under Xi has chosen to tighten control as far as possible and promise a brighter future come 2050.

So, what problems are they?

The Chief of the Central Bank warned at an event relating to the Party Congress that a "Minsky Moment" may be coming. https://www.ft.com/content/4bcb14c8-b4d2-11e7-a398-73d59db9e399?mhq5j=e7

Indeed, there is a mountain of bad debt in China, as they have turned on the credit taps to keep optimism up and keep growth up as the economy has started to flag. A big reason for this is the classic middle income trap, which China will not be able to overcome without reforming its education system; which the CCP are not willing to do, as they fear critical thinking and prefer intensive memorisation of dogma with as little free time to think as possible. Capital is fast moving out of China to other countries, something accelerated by the recent tampering with VPNs which makes it difficult to communicate with the outside world as well as the overall authoritarian and xenophobic turn.

Another thing noted from the conference; there was more talk about environment than economy.
Xi’s Speech Had 89 Mentions of the ‘Environment,’ Just 70 of the ‘Economy’
There is good reason for this. Based on current rates of increase of water usage, as well as rates of contamination and exhaustion of water supplies, (not to mention the rapidly expanding desert) China will begin to suffer severe water shortages and therefore famine by 2030. Incidentally, desertification is also leading to growing ethnic tensions in not just Xinjiang but also Inner Mongolia, as Han Chinese monopolise the quality land and leave the parched land to Mongolians, Uighurs, and Kazakhs. They have attempted to deal with this by building a mega-canal to transport water from the more moist South to the barren North, but it is too little too late. To avert disaster they are going to have to take drastic measures, which will not only slow economic growth but probably send the economy into recession, drastically cutting the size of the economy in order to clean up the unholy mess. Can China fix its mammoth water crisis before it's too late? - CNN
In addition, they have a demographic crisis coming because of the one child policy.

In summary, they have the following problems all coming to a head over the next decade or so:

-Middle income trap
-Debt crisis
-Environmental degradation and water crisis
-Capital flight, brain drain
-Ethnic tensions, especially in the north
-Demographic crisis
-Diplomatic isolation; shift away from a conciliatory approach of the USA and EU towards China, gradual consolidation of an India-Japan-South Korea-Taiwan-Vietnam-Mongolia-US-Australia anti China axis.

Many of these problems are sadly likely to be exacerbated by the shift towards one-man dictatorship. The future does not look good for China.

Oh, another thing to watch is their relationship with Pakistan. I don't see how they can repress the Uighurs the way they are without making themselves targets of Islamic militants within Pakistan. In fact, there have already been such attacks on Chinese workers and citizens in Pakistan, but with stories of them rounding people up to re-education camps and confiscating copies of the Quran filtering out of Xinjiang, I wouldn't be surprised to see attacks on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor becoming a much bigger issue.
 
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China crams spyware on phones in Muslim-majority province

china of course an early adopter of cctv, which was used ostensibly for traffic control but played a part in surveilling the tiananmen square protests of '89 and to supply images of those wanted. this new ploy a step beyond, but china's never been backward about its surveillance.
Kind of related to that (as it targets Uighurs)
China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education camps'

The article is brief and hints (maybe) that the source may not be trustworthy (US), but it seems a massive story to me if ture
Seems as if The Guardian the only major paper reporting it according to a google search
This is more thorough
Around 120,000 Uyghurs Detained For Political Re-Education in Xinjiang’s Kashgar Prefecture

Could really do with a picture
 
Kind of related to that (as it targets Uighurs)
China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education camps'

The article is brief and hints (maybe) that the source may not be trustworthy (US), but it seems a massive story to me if ture
Seems as if The Guardian the only major paper reporting it according to a google search
This is more thorough
Around 120,000 Uyghurs Detained For Political Re-Education in Xinjiang’s Kashgar Prefecture

Could really do with a picture

My Uighur friends are totally impossible to contact. Their Wechat Moments (like the Facebook wall) are completely cleared and I'm getting no response from my messages. I am worried about them - either they have been sent for re-education, or Xinjiang based Wechat accounts have been blocked from sending or receiving messages from overseas. I hope it is the latter.

Those reports come from Radio Free Asia which is accused of being funded by the CIA, but on the other hand as no journalists are allowed in Xinjiang it is impossible to verify. I believe it is true.

Scary shit. China is now a classical fascist state in every single sense, and is actively trying to export its system. The CCP must be opposed firmly, and leftists should cast away any vague sympathy based on the word "communist."

As I said in the other thread about India vs China, there is a high chance that they are gearing up for war with Taiwan sooner rather than later. This comes about in part because of over-confidence. It can be avoided if people start pushing back against China more, so that they do not believe they will get away with an invasion of Taiwan.

An example of their over-confidence is the kidnapping of a Swedish citizen on a train right in front of Swedish diplomats - a citizen not arrested within China but kidnapped by Chinese agents while on holiday in Thailand.

EU ambassador says he expects release of Swedish citizen detained by C

The Chinese government believes that their economic clout lets them get away with anything. The previous attitude of engaging with China to encourage them to democratise and engage with the world has failed - it has merely made the CCP more powerful and bolstered their legitimacy within China.
 
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