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teqniq said:
Boycott is diplomatic only, not athletes but at least it's something:

www.forbes.com

First The European Parliament, Now The British Parliament To Vote To Boycott Winter Olympics 2022

On July 8, 2021, the European Parliament approved a resolution focused on addressing the deteriorating situation of human rights in Hong Kong, among others, it calls for diplomats to boycott the Beijing Winter Olympics 2022.
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Feel a little bit nervous about this.

It is absolutely correct to boycott it; but I also feel like Beijing is going to take it extremely badly. I could really see it triggering some kind of anti-foreign, nationalism themed Cultural Revolution. Some might say we are already in the early stages of it - if so the Olympic boycott will be a watershed moment.
 
“Britain is being a bitch and asking for a beating” by doing the freedom of navigation thing in the South China Sea.

Aside from the shockingly misogynistic language, what does China hope to achieve here? Are they really going to fire upon a U.K. carrier group laden with US marines, accompanied by warships of multiple other nations?

Is the inevitable end game a military showdown between China and the US? How much further would China need to go to even make a dent in the US’s force? Would Russia side with China or would their arsehole go?

Makes a change from Covid.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
“Britain is being a bitch and asking for a beating” by doing the freedom of navigation thing in the South China Sea.

Aside from the shockingly misogynistic language, what does China hope to achieve here? Are they really going to fire upon a U.K. carrier group laden with US marines, accompanied by warships of multiple other nations?

Is the inevitable end game a military showdown between China and the US? How much further would China need to go to even make a dent in the US’s force? Would Russia side with China or would their arsehole go?

Makes a change from Covid.
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Russia and China are effectively allied. But both the us and China are preparing for war war while the Russians have been pursuing gray zone activities for some time
 
China is under internal stresses that are starting to show publicly. The uighurs , property bubbles , tech companies being sanctioned, ropey banking and finance and the inevitable Bitcoin stuff. I’m comfortable that it’s face saving sabre rattling - no one is going to attack them in the foreseeable.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
“Britain is being a bitch and asking for a beating” by doing the freedom of navigation thing in the South China Sea.

Aside from the shockingly misogynistic language, what does China hope to achieve here? Are they really going to fire upon a U.K. carrier group laden with US marines, accompanied by warships of multiple other nations?
Is the inevitable end game a military showdown between China and the US? How much further would China need to go to even make a dent in the US’s force? Would Russia side with China or would their arsehole go?
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kebabking ?
 
Two things - idiotic chest beating, which will make them look stupid when the CSG sails through and comes out the other side without big, smoking holes in it, despite China's threats - and fishing for fuckwits in the UK who will lap this crap up, and take China's side.

The later will be more successful than the former.
 
www.vice.com

‘Sissy Pants’ Celebrities Banned in China

Beijing fears that feminine men would hurt the country’s ability to fight, experts say.
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"The Chinese government has ordered a boycott of “sissy pants” celebrities as it escalates a fight against what it sees as a cultural import that threatens China’s national strength.

In a directive issued on Thursday, China’s TV watchdog said entertainment programs should firmly reject the “deformed aesthetics” of niangpao, a derogatory term that refers to effeminate men.

Young, delicate-looking men who display gentle personalities and act in boys’ love dramas have amassed large fan bases mostly comprising women. Many of them, like Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo, are China’s top-earning celebrities.

the more gender-neutral aesthetics have come under criticism from conservative voices in society. Some officials and parents fear the less macho men on TV would cause young men to lose their masculinity and therefore threaten the country’s development.

Earlier this year, the Ministry of Education pledged to promote sports education in Chinese schools in response to a politician’s proposal about “preventing men from becoming too feminine.”

The latest boycott order is part of a broader response to what the government deems as “chaos” in Chinese entertainment. Days before the order was issued, a commentary published by a Communist Party mouthpiece called the popularity of “sissy pants” a social problem that would distort the taste of the Chinese youth."

Looks like CPC is wanting to make China become the world leader in manufacturing fragile masculinity. Make 'em do sports! That will buck their ideas up! It's kind of disappointing to see that reactionary old Boomers in China are the same as in the rest of the world.

"Cui Le, a researcher on queer issues in China with the University of Auckland, said the clampdown on “sissy pants” reflected authorities’ attempt to reinforce mainstream gender roles and resist what they regard as Western gender values."

Now I don't know about Chinese gender values, but I'm pretty familiar with Western ones. Which include a whole bunch of toxic macho rubbish which is just as "Western" as the whole metrosexual thing.
 
George Soros ups the ante in war of words with BlackRock over China, exposing contrast of bets on world’s second-biggest market
“Pouring billions of dollars into China now is a tragic mistake,” Soros wrote in the Journal on Monday, his second contribution to the newspaper’s Op-Ed pages on China since August 13. “It is likely to lose money for BlackRock’s clients and, more important, will damage the national security interests of the US and other democracies.”
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What the billionaire class are saying
 
Is it not a thing that one country is the world's leading economy for a while and the mantle then passes to another country? Britain was once the dominant financial power, as was America, Brazil, Argentina, Japan, currently China and next will be, India possibly? It just what happens.
 
hash tag said:
Is it not a thing that one country is the world's leading economy for a while and the mantle then passes to another country? Britain was once the dominant financial power, as was America, Brazil, Argentina, Japan, currently China and next will be, India possibly? It just what happens.
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You think it just happens like passing on the baton in a relay race :D
And neither Brazil nor Argentina nor Japan have ever been the dominant financial power
 
hash tag said:
Is it not a thing that one country is the world's leading economy for a while and the mantle then passes to another country? Britain was once the dominant financial power, as was America, Brazil, Argentina, Japan, currently China and next will be, India possibly? It just what happens.
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China started the ball rolling on global financial domination, though depends on how much faith you put in the bronze age economy and it's reach and effect on distant countries.
 
Pickman's model said:
You think it just happens like passing on the baton in a relay race :D
And neither Brazil nor Argentina nor Japan have ever been the dominant financial power
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Of course there isn’t a baton, that would be stupid.There’s a special extra large conch with stuck on Googly eyes. Francis I of Austria gave it to George III at the Congress of Vienna. George VI handed it to Franklin D Roosevelt at Yalta and now Biden’s sent it to the repair shop for a quick polish before sticking it in the post to Xi after CoP26…
 
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China started the ball rolling on global financial domination, though depends on how much faith you put in the bronze age economy and it's reach and effect on distant countries.
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Fairly much up to the 14th century. For example, pub quiz fact, did you know that 2/3 of all the extant Roman silver coins are in China?
 
hash tag said:
Is it not a thing that one country is the world's leading economy for a while and the mantle then passes to another country? Britain was once the dominant financial power, as was America, Brazil, Argentina, Japan, currently China and next will be, India possibly? It just what happens.
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Brazil and Argentina have barely ever been able to run their own economies.
 
A380 said:
www.bloomsbury.com

The Silk Roads

The No. 1 Sunday Times and international bestseller - a major reassessment of world history in light of the economic and political renaissance in the re-emergin…
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The silver that went to China on the silk road was mostly melted down to mint Chinese currency. Not sure about China having the most 'extant' Roman currency. Who has them? Collectors? Museums?
 
maomao said:
The silver that went to China on the silk road was mostly melted down to mint Chinese currency. Not sure about China having the most 'extant' Roman currency. Who has them? Collectors? Museums?
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According to Frankopan museums.
 
hash tag said:
Recently, yes. Go back a hundred years or so and I think you will find it was a different story
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Argentina was one of the world's fastest growing economies till the 1930s when the fascists took over but I don't think it was ever anything like the biggest.
 
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