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Laurence Fox. The twat.

It's so weird how many people take "consent" as some kind of extreme and/or personal affront.

"My son thinks I shouldn't kiss him when he doesn't want me to!" - well, yeah...? :confused:
Tbf How old are the kids? Rhetorical no desire to participate in the zoo that is Mr Fox's life
 
Sky News: Andrew Bridgen to join Reclaim Party


Andrew Bridgen to join Laurence Fox's Reclaim Party after Tory expulsion — Sky News


Reclaim Party now has more MPs than UKIP and Reform combined


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Tbf How old are the kids? Rhetorical no desire to participate in the zoo that is Mr Fox's life
I checked - 11 and 14. Quite old enough to be clear about they want to consent to
I know what you mean, but at the same time I think with something like someone getting up close and personal even a toddler knows the difference between "want" and "don't want".

Obviously it'd be different if it was something that required some complex reasoning, or if the child's health was in danger, but as a non-parent, I feel like if your toddler doesn't want you kissing them, that's all you need and you respect that?
 
Reclaim has its first MP




Announcing his decision to join Reclaim, Mr Bridgen said he had been "a prisoner" in the Conservatives.

"Now I have reclaimed my freedom," he told a press conference.

He also predicted he would not be the first MP to switch to Reclaim, saying: "This is just the beginning."

What a comedian. :D :D :D
 
I know what you mean, but at the same time I think with something like someone getting up close and personal even a toddler knows the difference between "want" and "don't want".

Obviously it'd be different if it was something that required some complex reasoning, or if the child's health was in danger, but as a non-parent, I feel like if your toddler doesn't want you kissing them, that's all you need and you respect that?
Toddlers tend to be very clear in their preferences, in my experience.

He needs to realise that if his kids don't want to be kissed goodnight he has to respect that. If he doesn't he'll push his kids away.
 
I checked - 11 and 14. Quite old enough to be clear about they want to consent to
As somebody else pointed out even toddlers can be quite clear on what they do and don't want. I don't think that is the point tbf. If these were say 5-6 and started spouting on about consent...I think a parent would have the right to question what was going on with their kids innocence...11 ,14. That's pubescent and IMO it would be reckless not to give schooling....

Your kids are growing up Mr Fox. It happens
 
As somebody else pointed out even toddlers can be quite clear on what they do and don't want. I don't think that is the point tbf. If these were say 5-6 and started spouting on about consent...I think a parent would have the right to question what was going on with their kids innocence...11 ,14. That's pubescent and IMO it would be reckless not to give schooling....

Your kids are growing up Mr Fox. It happens
I'm not quite sure why you keep pushing this point.

I am not arguing against you. Somebody asked how old his kids were and I checked - 11 and 14. They are clearly old enough to say they don't want a goodnight kiss and that should be respected.
 
I'm not quite sure why you keep pushing this point.

I am not arguing against you. Somebody asked how old his kids were and I checked - 11 and 14. They are clearly old enough to say they don't want a goodnight kiss and that should be respected.
I don't. Raised point got taken a different way (not necessarily by you) clarified
 
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