Lame ending - Aliens 3
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yeah, sorry I missed that...Jayshat said:Oh dear...a fairly good film with good lines including the classic line...
"don't be afraid, I'm part of the family"
...ends with Ripley falling into the furnace holding onto the baby beast protruding from her stomach
Could have been better...
Louloubelle
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I thought the film was lacking in suspense and was generally pretty lame.
*awaits wrath of fraudy*
*awaits wrath of fraudy*
DJ Squelch
King Of Insides
I don't like the fact that the the little girl & Michael biehn from Alien2 are dead at the start of this one. It kind of spoils the fact that they all survive in Aliens knowing that they die in their cryo tubes after all that.
Theres alot worse you can do than Aliens 3.
Theres alot worse you can do than Aliens 3.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
Aliens 3 is gash. Of course Fincher went on to direct Seven and all was forgiven. 
Jayshat said:Oh dear...a fairly good film with good lines including the classic line...
"don't be afraid, I'm part of the family"
...ends with Ripley falling into the furnace holding onto the baby beast protruding from her stomach
Could have been better...
Can't agree. I think the ending is brilliant.
David Fincher is quite a good director, and seen as it was his big-time directing debut, I think he deserves a lot of credit for taking on a popular franchise. OK, it may not have been what fans of previous movies had been expecting, and secondly resulting in some disappointment, but aside from the cheesy parts (the already mentioned baby alien popping out of Ripley while falling into the furness) it is a good sci-fi film. You can do far worse.
I quite like the Wayle and Yutani thing going on, and they could have expanded it for the movie.
I quite like the Wayle and Yutani thing going on, and they could have expanded it for the movie.
Ryazan said:
Techincally its not.
What i heard was that Fincher was brought in at the last moment to shoot the film which was then butchered in the edit by the studio who demanded lots and lots of changes that Fincher didnt agree with...
Year or so back they went back to Fincher and asked him to do a Director's Cut - but he refused because he got fucked over so much the last time - so instead they used his notes to make what they thought his Director's Cut would look like...
So i've heard anyway.
Louloubelle
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One profoundly dissapointing element in the film was the way in which the alien was depicted.
In the previous 2 films the movement of the aliens was depicted as very insect like, they unfurled themselves and looked sticky and mucousy but when they moved quickly they scuttled along in rapid jerly movments that reminded me of a holiday in cyprus when I turned on the light in my hotel to see cockroaches scuttling for cover (shudders).
In Aliens 3 the alien seemed almost to meander along the corridors, looking round doors and at times seemed reminiscent of the man in a rubber suit school of horror. The horrible steel teeth were still there, but they didn't seem as menacing as in the previous films.
Also the gender subversion that gained Ripley such a substantial lesbian fan base in the 1st 2 films, was too blatant in Aliens 3. The issues relating to gender and reproductive issues were dealt with in an overt and clumsy way IMO, from Ripley's shaved head (ooh so butch!) to the scene of Ripley cradling the baby alien as if it was a newborn infant as it ripped her stomach open.
Also, the banter of the crew in alien and the marines in Aliens was crammed full of top class one liners, the casual banter seemed authentic and real, whereas in Aliens 3 it seemed to me anyway to be contrived and theatrical.
just my 2p worth
In the previous 2 films the movement of the aliens was depicted as very insect like, they unfurled themselves and looked sticky and mucousy but when they moved quickly they scuttled along in rapid jerly movments that reminded me of a holiday in cyprus when I turned on the light in my hotel to see cockroaches scuttling for cover (shudders).
In Aliens 3 the alien seemed almost to meander along the corridors, looking round doors and at times seemed reminiscent of the man in a rubber suit school of horror. The horrible steel teeth were still there, but they didn't seem as menacing as in the previous films.
Also the gender subversion that gained Ripley such a substantial lesbian fan base in the 1st 2 films, was too blatant in Aliens 3. The issues relating to gender and reproductive issues were dealt with in an overt and clumsy way IMO, from Ripley's shaved head (ooh so butch!) to the scene of Ripley cradling the baby alien as if it was a newborn infant as it ripped her stomach open.
Also, the banter of the crew in alien and the marines in Aliens was crammed full of top class one liners, the casual banter seemed authentic and real, whereas in Aliens 3 it seemed to me anyway to be contrived and theatrical.
just my 2p worth
The Alien in the 3rd movie was cross bred with a dog, giving it it's different appearence. I think after the gung ho action of Aliens, Fincher wanted to bring back the supsense of the first movie. Dark corridors, not knowing when or where this thing is. I don't think the alien meandered that much, in fact near the end, when the convicts are doing some crazy cat an mouse relay game to lure the the Alien into the Lead Mold was one of the best parts of the movie, depsite it's flaws. The screams of men in the distance while you just get a slight glimmer of the Alien running past a corrodor was quite skillfully done.
Louloubelle
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well it looked like meandering to me 
I just didn't find it as scary as the aliens in the 1st 2 films, all those long shots of the alien looking round doors and stuff, it just didn't do it for me. The alien was too visible, not enough mystery
The combination of glimpses of the alien close up and the jerky, insect like movements in the long shots on the 1st 2 films made for scary aliens.
The scene with the queen in aliens was so great that even with the alien very visible, it was so massive and magnificent, and the battle was so exciting that it was all good.
I just didn't find it as scary as the aliens in the 1st 2 films, all those long shots of the alien looking round doors and stuff, it just didn't do it for me. The alien was too visible, not enough mystery
The combination of glimpses of the alien close up and the jerky, insect like movements in the long shots on the 1st 2 films made for scary aliens.
The scene with the queen in aliens was so great that even with the alien very visible, it was so massive and magnificent, and the battle was so exciting that it was all good.
Now that I am grown up, I think Aliens is just too full of fireworks to be scary. yes, the aliens look more insect like and menacing, but it is just the space Marine Core "mean motherfuckers" that gets on my nerves. Bill Paxton I remember was good, as he got some pretty good one liners, being the panicky one, some comic relief, but it was just like one big 18 rated Laser Quest game in my opinion of it now, not as some excitable 10 year old.
shoddysolutions
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Ryazan said:
That's just a third of the movie though, Act Two if you like. The main thrust of the movie's plot is Ripley's loss of her daughter, surrogate family (Newt and Hicks) and the ensuing battle between Ripley and the Alien Queen to protect their respective families.
I liked the way Aliens tackled the Rambo myth - most of the Marine Corps were wiped out within thirty seconds of meeting the aliens - starting with the Sergeant (tactics or what)
The tension in Aliens is incredible, even on second and subsequent viewings. It ain't Kurosawa but it's a five star 'movie'. And as a bonus, my psycho ex-landlady ended up on the cutting room floor.
sleaterkinney
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Or Vs Predator.CyberRose said:
I didn't think of it that way, with her daughter, but c'mon that fucking latino butch marine bitch should have been jettisoned into space before they even touched down on the alien world. Private Hudson (Bill Paxton) is just so funny, some of the shit he comes out with; but I am a man now, not a boy, and it doesn't have that same kind of excitement and feel that I got when I watched it many moons ago.
Apparently James Cameron had trouble from British crews because of their snobbishness at what was following Ridley Scotts "masterpiece".
The Ripley in Pneumatic suit type thing, and Alien Queen just looks daft now. Clunk, Clunk clunk... "Get away from her you BITCH!"
As for "Rambo myth", I don't think anyone has taken such a thing that seruiously to dispel such a myth even if it existed......... As for the Rambo movies, have you seen no 3? Class, absolute class
Apparently James Cameron had trouble from British crews because of their snobbishness at what was following Ridley Scotts "masterpiece".
The Ripley in Pneumatic suit type thing, and Alien Queen just looks daft now. Clunk, Clunk clunk... "Get away from her you BITCH!"
As for "Rambo myth", I don't think anyone has taken such a thing that seruiously to dispel such a myth even if it existed......... As for the Rambo movies, have you seen no 3? Class, absolute class
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
poului said:
agreed. i quite enjoy it. thought it was a good addition to the first two really. resurrection is pretty poo though.
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