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King Charles III's time is up

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There’s a number of books on Westminster etiquette and tradition. Most of the ones I know are decades old, but many of ridiculous rituals remain in place.

One that I believe is gone now is the storage of pop up collapsible top hats at the end of each bench in the Commons, as a member was required to wear a top hat to make a point of order.

Really.
 
To be clear: the dusty old books I read for my degree in the 80s are probably no longer in print. I did a quick Google for “collapsible top hat point of order House of Commons” to help ska out.

Feel free to do your own.
 
The top hats were around until 1998, according to a Parliament factsheet.

To increase their appearance during debates and to be seen more easily, a Member wishing to raise a point of order during a division was, until 1998, required to speak with his hat on. Collapsible top hats were kept for the purpose. This requirement was abolished following recommendations from the Modernisation Select Committee, which stated: “At present, if a Member seeks to raise a point of order during a division, he or she must speak "seated and covered". In practice this means that an opera hat which is kept at each end of the Chamber has to be produced and passed to the Member concerned. This inevitably takes some time, during which the Member frequently seeks to use some other form of covering such as an Order Paper. This particular practice has almost certainly brought the House into greater ridicule than almost any other, particularly since the advent of television. We do not believe that it can be allowed to continue.”



The only remaining problem was what to do with the two hats that are kept in the Commons for members who use them to draw attention to themselves in order to raise a point of order during the hurly burly of divisions.

Ms Taylor suggested one could be kept on display for visitors, while the second could, perhaps, be sold off to raise money for charity.

Sir George responded that selling the hat off, even for charity, would amount to privatisation.



 
Yeh it was in a historical romance first though wasn't it - that's where they got it from it says so at the top of that page. Historical romances aren't real you know :rolleyes:
 
Best.. Yet...!

So I will be in Scotland next year from May 3rd through the 26th, and just saw Nigel's post about the coronation being on May 6th.. Will Scotland close because of the coronation?

:D :D :D
 
Wow - Another one has just popped-up to ask if they will be still able to go and see the Crown Jewels that day...!

:D
 
Well they won't need them all for the coronation will they? There are apparently 7 sovereign crowns and 6 consort crowns so they are only going to need one of each unless they swap them every few minutes like panto costumes.
Haven't India said they will get all mardy about a trade deal if Camilla gets to stick the one with the Koh-i-Nor in it on her bonce (which is apparently the plan)
 
The Q's have been to Windsor to see the guy on the right and his mates far more often than we have to see the one on the left
 
Democracy faces being put on hold due to the vanity of sausage fingers - if they move the BH to Friday it’s the planned local election counting day

Coronation bank holiday faces local elections clash in England

To me it seems incredible that no one thought of this or discussed it before announcing the date. Isn’t that what these courtiers are for? But I suppose it’s another example of the whims of the royal family being put ahead of everything else
 
Democracy faces being put on hold due to the vanity of sausage fingers - if they move the BH to Friday it’s the planned local election counting day

Coronation bank holiday faces local elections clash in England

To me it seems incredible that no one thought of this or discussed it before announcing the date. Isn’t that what these courtiers are for? But I suppose it’s another example of the whims of the royal family being put ahead of everything else
Some of the more minor counts were already scheduled for what is now coronation day.
 
Well they won't need them all for the coronation will they? There are apparently 7 sovereign crowns and 6 consort crowns so they are only going to need one of each unless they swap them every few minutes like panto costumes.
Haven't India said they will get all mardy about a trade deal if Camilla gets to stick the one with the Koh-i-Nor in it on her bonce (which is apparently the plan)
Nah plans are afoot to palm India off with the Elgin Marbles.
 
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