Kim Jong il dead (ish)
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2hats
Dust.
The main regional players (DPRK, ROK, Japan, China, USA) are most likely interested in maintaining the status quo (sadly for the unfavoured masses in the DPRK). DPRK is already something of a cheap source of labour for China, who don't want US forces sitting on their border. ROK isn't interested in the instability and financial hit that reunification would bring (think FDR/DDR) and for all their chest thumping regarding reunification the DPRK leadership almost certainly aren't really interested in it (certainly haven't been) as it would just hasten the unravelling of the cult of personality of the Kims. The only questions are: how trigger happy will the Great Successor be, and will there be a power struggle within elements of the central leadership?
For all their (almost comical) hawkish propaganda, the general impression you get when wandering around the DPRK (admittedly a highly controlled and managed view) is that their position leans towards a defensive one (the odd ill-advised and poorly thought out skirmish acknowledged) and that by and large they just want to be left alone.
NK does have several special economic areas on the coast where there are foreign factories employing local labour.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Yep, awful.
But looking at the paragraph I posted, it's spookily accurate
In 2012, just over one year after the death of Kim Jong-il,[8] North Korean leader Kim Jong-un reunites North and South Korea to form the Greater Korean Republic.
not-bono-ever
meh
theres a lot working in Siberia IIRC - all organised & sent by the government. I think Dandong has a massive NK illegal population, many women coerced into in the sex industry. I have some stuff on both Dandong & the NK slave labour gangs that are rented out , from some research I was doing, will post up links if I can find them
also, a load were in Libya and have been declared non citizens & abandoned by the DPRK , as their return and subsequent tales of revolution would not be welcomed back home
also, a load were in Libya and have been declared non citizens & abandoned by the DPRK , as their return and subsequent tales of revolution would not be welcomed back home
not-bono-ever
meh
a quick google reckons there was circa 20K in russia
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-as-north-korea-prepares-for-war-2145018.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-as-north-korea-prepares-for-war-2145018.html
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Probably a good thing though. Grim as the situation sounds, at least they don't have to go back.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
not-bono-ever
meh
Seol still has regular air raid drills cow of the neighbours 50KM north - I can imagine the SK civil defence will be on red alert at the minute
still , theres 30K of tooled up US forces sitting around in the DMZ / pissing it up in Seouls "Special tourist Zone" ( i.e. bars and brothels for the GI's )....
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
2hats
Dust.
There were DPRK workers on the flight I took to Pyongyang from China and others on the train we left on via Dandong (plus the DPRK women's weightlifting team on their way to a competition in Beijing). As others have mentioned there are sweatshops inside DPRK churning out material for Chinese and perhaps other markets. DPRK workers can pop up in some odd places.
You might be surprised to find out how many North Korean citizens get to travel outside the DPRK. Though usually, other than elite party members, it is only married males with family so they have an incentive to come back... (their passport gets taken off them on returning and I doubt they can pop down the post office to apply for a new one).
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Also apparently, he had the world's largest collection of Disney animation cells. I wonder what'll happen to his Daffy Duck memorabilia now?
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likesfish
You can't park here sir
So cockrot and drunkeness will make them a pushover
Thats Us drinking levels so two lite beers and it's time for bed.
Rather than the functioning alcoholics that are the uk forces.
JHE
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I'd have been more shocked if she'd sent her son to a school in Korea.it's even worse than when diane abbott sent her kid to private school
Doubt they'd allow lowly workers across the border as China is the stepping stone towards defecting to the south.
Especially when the scales fell from their eyes as they see how shit things are for them compared to the Chinese.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
News of Princess Diana's death reaches the DPRK:
That's all those vaunted Manyoo 'supporters' in Asia upon seeing them knocked out of the Champions League.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
is their going to be a mourning period or do we get the full epic state funeral before christmas?
JimW
支那暗杀团
Funeral set for the 28th, I read.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Seoul is in South Korea...not the North.
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i think teepee was implying that the north could get a little trigger happy towards those in the south
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Rubbish. I thought about that earlier. When Di croaked there were a handful of twats who blubbed and bawled and most normal folk took the piss out of them.
This is an entire nation making cunts of themselves.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
They're not all making cunts out of themselves. When Kim Il-sung died, those who did not display enough grief were informed on and arrested. Nobody in NK can afford not to display grief at the moment.
Those foreigners are so funny, aren't they?
As I said above, though, some of the grief will be heartfelt. Not everybody loathes a dictator.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Isn't the North always a bit trigger happy against the South?
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