Henry Kissinger is dead (30/11/2023)

[Yossarian]

Where is Dick Cheney on your list? He's at least as complicit of GWB.

I think Cheney is now made up of so many spare parts it's difficult to guess his possible lifespan

 

[Raheem]

God's quite invested in Israel-Palestine, I understand, so maybe Kissinger's just doing next-level shuttle diplomacy.

 

[moochedit]

and Rumsfeld.

Already dead

 

[PR1Berske]

Good fucking riddance to Henry fucking Kissinger

 

[teqniq]

Here come the warm jets

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I posted that Rolling Stone article under that Tweet.

 

[petee]

Already dead

true, but he was alive then.

 

[krtek a houby]

We will all die. No point in celebrating.

No one here killed as many people as him. It is a shame there is no Hell.

There's no harm in celebrating the death of a monster.

As you say, nobody here killed as many as him. (Like to believe there's not many mass murderers on urban.)

As for hell - why is it a shame there's not such a place? Would you celebrate if there was?

It's probably full of sock puppets, anyway.

 

[GarveyLives]

Little wonder that this giant of global white supremacy is so revered:

Henry Kissinger: 10 conflicts, countries that define a blood-stained legacy

Kissinger at 100: How his ‘sordid’ diplomacy in Africa fuelled war in Angola and prolonged apartheid

 

[The39thStep]

It's what he would have wanted

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I think Cheney is now made up of so many spare parts it's difficult to guess his possible lifespan

Well, at least we know he's got a heart, even if he had to rip it out of someone else.

 

[PTK]

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[PTK]

Well do I remember how, when I was a young teenager in 1972, we would say to each other, while we protested against the US war in Vietnam, “Say what you like about Henry Kissinger, but his strategy and excellence in diplomacy is shaping global politics throughout the 20th century.”

In Trafalgar Square in September 1974, on the first anniversary of the coup in Chile, I head one the anti-Pinochet protestors say, “I know that Kissinger is responsible for helping engineer the overthrow of democracy in Chile, which has led to the murder of thousands of our comrades, but you have to admit that his influence and legacy will continue to reverberate well into the 21st century.”

I would say that there has been no figure more admired by the ruling class since von Ribbentrop was German Ambassador in London.

 

[RD2003]

Good fucking riddance to Henry fucking Kissinger

'He overthrew governments and bombed children.' So did his predecessors and his successors. This is going on now and won't end. What's the big deal about Kissinger?

Perhaps it's the scale of his crimes, but if it hadn't been him somebody else would have done it.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Little wonder that this giant of global white supremacy is so revered:

Henry Kissinger: 10 conflicts, countries that define a blood-stained legacy

Kissinger at 100: How his ‘sordid’ diplomacy in Africa fuelled war in Angola and prolonged apartheid

Don't forget the landmines

 

[ouirdeaux]

Tom Lehrer gave up satire when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.

What else could one do?

 

[Brainaddict]

'He overthrew governments and bombed children.' So did his predecessors and his successors. This is going on now and won't end. What's the big deal about Kissinger?

Perhaps it's the scale of his crimes, but if it hadn't been him somebody else would have done it.

What's your problem? We should make all these monsters out to be what they are. It's important to restate all his crimes because there are billions of adults alive now who weren't born when he committed most of his mass murders. It should be remembered and his legacy turned to shit, and the legacies of all the others too.

 

[RD2003]

What's your problem? We should make all these monsters out to be what they are. It's important to restate all his crimes because there are billions of adults alive now who weren't born when he committed most of his mass murders. It should be remembered and his legacy turned to shit, and the legacies of all the others too.

I'm not saying it shouldn't. I was just pointing out that the system creates monsters of people anyway. Even the 'nice' servants of capital end up bombing somebody in the end, or else cheering on the bombings, and I don't see why this makes them different than the likes of Kissinger. Look at how equivocal the world's liberal democrats are being about his death.

Kissinger's gone, but the world remains the same, as we're currently witnessing with the slaughter and maiming of tens of thousands, and with no hope of anything changing.

 

[Sue]

I see you're in a cheery and optimistic mood again tonight, RD2003!

 

[_Russ_]

Kissinger's gone, but the world remains the same, as we're currently witnessing with the slaughter and maiming of tens of thousands, and with no hope of anything changing.

I did allow myself a brief smile before the reality you describe reasserted its presence in my thoughts...sigh

 

[NoXion]

but the world remains the same, as we're currently witnessing with the slaughter and maiming of tens of thousands, and with no hope of anything changing.

So what's the fucking point in you moaning all the time? We already know you're a miserable dick.

 

[krtek a houby]

'He overthrew governments and bombed children.' So did his predecessors and his successors. This is going on now and won't end. What's the big deal about Kissinger?

Perhaps it's the scale of his crimes, but if it hadn't been him somebody else would have done it.

What's the big deal about any of these killers?

There's nothing we can do.

We're just nobodies on the internet.

We should accept all this and remain miserable, defeated and give up until the end of time etc etc etc

 

[RD2003]

So what's the fucking point in you moaning all the time? We already know you're a miserable dick.

Always somebody who can't restrain himself.

 

[likesfish]

Chile and Argentina he helped save from communism.
If the mountain of corpses was the cure?
How bad would the disease have been?

 

[RD2003]

Chile and Argentina he helped save from communism.

No he didn't.

 

[PTK]

Chile and Argentina he helped save from communism.
If the mountain of corpses was the cure?
How bad would the disease have been?

Chile was a democracy. Kissinger was complicit in the overthrow of democracy in Chile. Many concluded that events in Chile demonstrated that there could be no peaceful road to socialism.

Now you have justified the rape, torture, and murder of thousands of ordinary working class people you can piss off.

 

[likesfish]

No he didn't.

That’s what the apologists argue personally think it’s bollocks if your filling mass graves something’s gone seriously wrong.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This is news, fucking hell.

Revealed 30 years on: secret role of Henry Kissinger in Bhopal tragedy

Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger put pressure on the Indian Government to agree a legal settlement that let the American chemical…

www.heraldscotland.com

The letter, obtained by Bhopal activists, is important because it confirms what many have long suspected: that the US and Tata were complicit in allowing Union Carbide to evade responsibility for the world's worst industrial accident. Activists have also released two diplomatic cables from the online campaign group WikiLeaks, showing that Kissinger helped build the pesticide plant that showered Bhopal with poisonous gas. When he was US Secretary of State in 1976 he facilitated a bank loan of $1.3m to Union Carbide to cover 45% of the cost of building the plant.

 

[Brainaddict]

I'm not saying it shouldn't. I was just pointing out that the system creates monsters of people anyway. Even the 'nice' servants of capital end up bombing somebody in the end, or else cheering on the bombings, and I don't see why this makes them different than the likes of Kissinger. Look at how equivocal the world's liberal democrats are being about his death.

Kissinger's gone, but the world remains the same, as we're currently witnessing with the slaughter and maiming of tens of thousands, and with no hope of anything changing.

Nothing changes eh? I'd like to see the equivalent of this in the Teen Vogue of 20 years ago: War Criminal Responsible for Millions of Deaths Dies at 100

“Historical memory is short, and US politicians from both parties have a habit of bestowing accolades and kind words on officials who deserve nothing of the sort,” wrote Azadeh Shahshahani for Teen Vogue in 2021 following the death of fellow war criminal Donald Rumsfeld, calling for accountability for both Rumsfeld and Kissinger. Shahshahani pointed out that, in 1971, in Bangladesh alone, Kissinger had enabled the deaths of between 300,000 and 3 million people by providing arms to the Pakistani Army.

 

[hitmouse]

Checking how long ago its original author died.

This isn't even a joke, from the NYT obit:

Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100; Shaped the Nation’s Cold War History

The most powerful secretary of state of the postwar era, he was both celebrated and reviled. His complicated legacy still resonates in relations with China, Russia and the Middle East.

www.nytimes.com

Always somebody who can't restrain himself.

Well, maybe try working on that so that next time you might be able to restrain yourself before pissing your Eeyore shtick all over a thread?

 

[RD2003]

Nothing changes eh? I'd like to see the equivalent of this in the Teen Vogue of 20 years ago: War Criminal Responsible for Millions of Deaths Dies at 100

Don't really see why the numbers matter when the intolerable system just rolls on anyway. It isn't like one war criminal is better than another just because one of them is responsible for fewer deaths. I know that isn't exactly what you're saying, but it's what's implied by this kind of thinking.