Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I want the Tories gone, and a Labour Party that is actually a safe space for Jews. Pretty much sums it up you find that amusing.Fucking hell you actually support Starmer?
Keir Starmer's time is up
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Kid_Eternity
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Wasn’t she the idiot 2019 campaign manager that admitted she didn’t read polls?
Former Labour general secretary has endorsed Andrew Feinstein - Vox Political
Former Labour general secretary has endorsed Andrew Feinstein, not Keir Starmer, to be Holborn & St Pancras MP. What does that tell you?voxpoliticalonline.com
Formby was the person who did most (with Corbyn) to actually address antisemitism in the Labour party and Starmer couldn't wait to get rid of her.
Kid_Eternity
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You clearly don’t have any empathy what it was like for Jewish people. And that speaks volumes about your values.
Kid_Eternity
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It’s what the grown ups call a win/ win.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
The Magic Grandpa suddenly makes sense from a Starmerite
Can't see that on Wiki. She was the General Secretary who actually worked with Corbyn to rid the party of antisemites - you know, the antisemites that the right wing Labour party HQ had allowed to fester within the party and then blamed Corbyn for.
Funny that Starmer didn't go after those right wingers in Labour HQ, who the WhatsApp messages showed were much worse racists than the thousands of Labour members purged from the party by Starmer.
A lot of Blacks and Jews were purged you know - suggesting that Starmer is more of a racist and antisemite than Corbyn ever was. Pretty much sums it up you support him.
Labour is winning back Jewish voters, but at what cost?
An anti-racism that is selective is no anti-racism at all.
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hitmouse
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I don't really like this kind of idpol stuff, I pretty much resent it, but now that you've made it pretty much unavoidable, would you mind saying what your relationship to Jewishness is? Like, if you're Jewish then that's fine, we're just two Jews who disagree with each other, there's a strong case to be made that that's constitutive of Jewishness and all that. But if you're a gentile and you just made that post, then, well, I think you can see how it comes across as a bit fucking chutzpahdik. Just to be clear, do you think our Frank sees the world in terms of Jewish conspiracies, or did you just throw that out for no reason?
Tbf, that is quite a nice suit. But then looking at that post has also reminded me that Jess Phillips of all people resigned from Starmer's frontbench because it was too immoral for her. Or perhaps she's also part of the International Antisemitic Conspiracy as well?
krtek a houby
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Oh dear, a classic case of when urbanites go bad.
Seriously, there's genuine antisemites out there, why not go after them, rather than this ridiculous made up double down nonsense ?
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two sheds
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And no she wasn't the Campaign Manager because she was at the time the General Secretary handling the antisemitism in the party that your pals on the Labour right had allowed to flourish.
A simple check would have shown you were wrong but instead you spent your time inserting the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge crying emoji.
Kid_Eternity
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Kid_Eternity
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There’s clearly anti Semites on here.
Kid_Eternity
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Very welcome change if you ask me…
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‘No-drama Starmer’: How Labour would govern — The Guardian
‘It’s not politics as spectacle. It’s politics designed to get better outcomes,’ says one insider, as Starmer looks to cut NHS waiting lists and improve security
Who would you say was an anti-semite?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
On that, we certainly can agree.
krtek a houby
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There's 3 posters who have been pulled up on their antisemitism. They've been named and shamed before.
Very welcome change if you ask me…
‘No-drama Starmer’: How Labour would govern — The Guardian
‘It’s not politics as spectacle. It’s politics designed to get better outcomes,’ says one insider, as Starmer looks to cut NHS waiting lists and improve security
So going by this analogy the easy, otherwise unnoticed footpath out of the crisis in the UK which Starmer is about to lead us on is... what?Guardian said:
TopCat
Putin fanboy
There are certainly several cunts.
Very welcome change if you ask me…
‘No-drama Starmer’: How Labour would govern — The Guardian
‘It’s not politics as spectacle. It’s politics designed to get better outcomes,’ says one insider, as Starmer looks to cut NHS waiting lists and improve security
That's the whole country subjected to contemptuous and often racist anti-democratic control freakery then.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I suspect he won’t have any choice and we’ll be back in a decade…
www.theguardian.com
Britain will not rejoin EU in my lifetime, says Starmer
Labour leader also says he cannot foresee circumstances where UK would re-enter single market or customs union
ska invita
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oh my god.......its starting....its going to be a long five years
hitmouse
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Hey, since you're posting on this thread again, I asked you some questions that you seem to have missed, do you want to have a go at answering them? Just to jog your memory, it was:
Like, I appreciate there's no neat link between politics and identity, gentiles can say all sorts of interesting things on this and related subjects and Jews can say silly ones, just like with any other identity category. But still, if you're setting yourself up as urban's own John Woodcock or Gideon Falter, I would quite like to know if our resident expert on what's Good For The Jews is actually a gentile. And if so, perhaps you might want to consider that you're talking to people who have a bit more firsthand experience of Jewish life and maybe modify your tone a bit. Or you could just post that big emoji again, whatever.
Having done a quick check, phildwyer, WhyLikeThis (who I don't think still posts here), Boris Sprinkler and barlimo have all posted stuff on the main Israel/Hamas thread that I consider to have crossed the line. Of those, Boris definitely seems like he's not in a particularly healthy place, not saying that excuses anything but I think it should be possible to have compassion for the reasons someone might be behaving erratically without condoning the behaviour itself. When the subject's come up, I've made an effort to identify exactly what it was that I object to and why (e.g. here and here), because I think that's worth doing if you take antisemitism seriously. Of course, if someone just sees antisemitism as a fun little word that they can throw around to score points off people then they can do what they like I suppose.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Slightly lower chances of that happening than there is of you voting for Corbyn.I suspect he won’t have any choice and we’ll be back in a decade…
Britain will not rejoin EU in my lifetime, says Starmer
Labour leader also says he cannot foresee circumstances where UK would re-enter single market or customs union
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Demographics are destiny.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Eventually, maybe. But not in the next ten years they’re not.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Don't hold your breath.
ska invita
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Nail on head here
www.theguardian.com
matches the Sun headline neatly too
Starmer may be the son of a toolmaker, but he speaks for a very different class – and that’s a problem for Labour | Dan Evans
There is a new ‘professional, managerial class’ running the party, and it has a complex relationship with the working class, says author Dan Evans
matches the Sun headline neatly too
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Just trying to be fair to WhyLikeThis, I don't remember them posting anything anti-semitic, just a lot angry and quite random lashing out at various people.
hitmouse
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Bit of a sidetrack and hardly relevant with them not being there anymore, but they did post about "the Israelis" killing Jesus, which is definitely over the line for me. Agree that they weren't as persistent with it as someone like phil though.
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