Keir Starmer's time is up

[Karl Masks]

In news that should surprise no-one:

Starmer to delay recognition of Palestinian state to preserve relationship with US

The Labour leader has previously downplayed suggestions the recognition of the Palestinian state by Britain would happen anytime soon

www.independent.co.uk

Looking forward to Starmer telling Trump all about change and toolmaking. I'm sure the convicted felon and presidential sex pest will be laser focussed.

Anyone have the Vogons on speed dial?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Maybe. It is notoriously hard to poll certain sectors of the population. In this constituency, that's the likes of Bangladeshis and Somalis. Polling areas like Somers Town is tricky.

It won't make a massive amount of difference, but I won't be surprised if Feinstein gets a few more than the polls say. It will be nowhere near enough to win.

This is a different issue to sample size though. If your sampling method is dodgy increasing sample size doesn't particularly fix that, you just have a larger non-representative sample.

 

[nino_savatte]

Tell me you don't know how to read polls without telling me you don't know how to read polls...

Tell me that you believe the lies you're told without telling me you believe the lies you're told.

I take you're okay with Starmer's singling out of Bangladeshis, aye?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Doesn’t look like the Diane Abbott debacle has changed the voting for Black Britons very much…

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Tell me that you believe the lies you're told without telling me you believe the lies you're told.

I take you're okay with Starmer's singling out of Bangladeshis, aye?

Wtaf are you on about? Polling data by credible polling companies aren’t lies you fool!

 

[nino_savatte]

Wtaf are you on about? Polling data by credible polling companies aren’t lies you fool!

I could ask you the same question. Starmer is a man who used dog-whistle racism in an interview and you think he's trustworthy because a single poll says so? Go fuck yourself.

 

[nino_savatte]

Doesn’t look like the Diane Abbott debacle has changed the voting for Black Britons very much…

WTF are you talking about, chief? I see. In your mind, this poll is the equivalent of the Oracle at Delphi. Knock yourself out.

 

[Pickman's model]

WTF are you talking about, chief? I see. In your mind, this poll is the equivalent of the Oracle at Delphi. Knock yourself out

If only the predictions here came true as often as the delphi prophecies

 

[Pickman's model]

Wtaf are you on about? Polling data by credible polling companies aren’t lies you fool!

What is truth? Twat

 

[Pickman's model]

Looking forward to Starmer telling Trump all about change and toolmaking. I'm sure the convicted felon and presidential sex pest will be laser focussed.

Anyone have the Vogons on speed dial?

It's weird you having a pop at trump for being a convicted felon the number of times a mods' tribunal has convicted you

 

[Johnny Vodka]

My in-laws think Keir Starmer is ‘an idiot’. Should I pick a fight? | Ask Philippa

Don’t fall out with these people who, apart from their political views, you really appreciate

www.theguardian.com

 

[ska invita]

See also Jon Ashworth dropping similar shit on Newsnight:

KICK OUT THE BENGALS!! - SEND THEM BACK!!
Its obvious Labour HQ have had a meeting and decided to single out Bangladeshis...its official messaging from the top down....

Having grown up in the era of "Paki bashing" and seen it parroted by ten year old kids at school, including terrorising any Indian looking shop keepers, I've taken taken some comfort in the state of Britain, thinking we had broadly moved on from that era.

To hear this senior Labour cunt literally spitting this vitriol out makes me sick to my stomach. They're utter scum.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

My in-laws think Keir Starmer is ‘an idiot’. Should I pick a fight? | Ask Philippa

Don’t fall out with these people who, apart from their political views, you really appreciate

www.theguardian.com

They think he's an idiot, I think he's a cunt. Should I fight them?

 

[Knotted]

Doesn’t look like the Diane Abbott debacle has changed the voting for Black Britons very much…

Huge switch to the Greens for Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian voters.

 

[strung out]

Huge switch to the Greens for Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian voters.

Looks more like a huge switch to the Tories by Indian voters.

 

[Dogsauce]

Looks more like a huge switch to the Tories by Indian voters.

I wonder why the current Tory party might be attractive to them…

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Huge switch to the Greens for Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian voters.

Huge? Now many are we talking, what impact does that have on what seats?

 

[Knotted]

Looks more like a huge switch to the Tories by Indian voters.

Fair observation, though I suspect that's not a switch as such.

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There's an interesting analysis from yougov here

Ethnic minority Britons at the 2024 general election | YouGov

A new YouGov study examines voting behaviour, as well as key issues and attitudes, among the UK’s ethnic minority groups

yougov.co.uk

Gaza is a big issue among many Pakistani and Bangladeshi but not among most black voters. And really as it's the only issue Starmer's Labour have been tested on, the polling reflects this.

 

[Knotted]

Huge? Now many are we talking, what impact does that have on what seats?

We'll have to dig through some historical polling to prove it, but I don't think there has been big support for the Greens among South Asians like that before.

I realise this thread has gone a bit point scorey. But really we should expect a rising Labour Party to keep the various components of its electoral coalition together, so I'm not sure the points being scored count for much. For me, it's less about what will happen next week, but how things will look in five years time when they have been tested in government and what happens to people who are unenthused but willing to give them a chance.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Well…

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Well…

Asked if you'd rather drink urine or eat a raw swede, and you have a 'little death' over the raw swede option. Let me hand you a tissue.

Louis MacNeice

 

[Pickman's model]

Well…

Well is not the first thing that comes into my mind when I see yet another of your content-free posts

 

[Wilf]

There was a Monty Python sketch about a joke so funny it killed. This is the mirror universe version.

 

[Elpenor]

Well…

Given their parties performance in polls and the election now being under a hundred hours away that should not be of surprise to anyone

 

[Elpenor]

I was listening to something the other day and was reminded that Starmer doesn’t have a favourite book and also doesn’t dream.

Perhaps he’ll rewrite the famous MLK speech for Friday morning

 

[Dystopiary]

The vote of many Hong Kongers living in the UK will be affected by thoughts of a future government's potential relationship with China.

More than 140,000 people have arrived in the UK from Hong Kong under the British National Overseas (BNO) visa since 2021, after Beijing imposed a sweeping national security law which, to crush dissent, criminalised the “subversion” of state power – a crime that carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

The 'Red Wall' seat where fear of China's threats could swing the vote

 

[hitmouse]

Well…

I'm sure that poll's lovely and all, but while you're back on here, would you mind taking a little bit of time to answer the questions that were asked over on the Corbzy thread? Don't want to rush you or anything but I think there's a few people who'd be very interested to hear your answers.

 

[two sheds]

If he believes anything Starmer says I think we have the background to his hatred of Corbyn and anyone who supported him.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I'm sure that poll's lovely and all, but while you're back on here, would you mind taking a little bit of time to answer the questions that were asked over on the Corbzy thread? Don't want to rush you or anything but I think there's a few people who'd be very interested to hear your answers.

Why bother? After the last pile on it’s clear nothing I say will be treated fairly.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

If he believes anything Starmer says I think we have the background to his hatred of Corbyn and anyone who supported him.

And here proves my point. Simple minded assumptions by people who really don’t know me from Adam…