Keir Starmer's time is up

[Dystopiary]

I'm dreading these fuckers to be honest.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm dreading these fuckers to be honest.

Which ones?

 

[Dystopiary]

Which ones?

Labour Party in government.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Labour Party in government.

Ah. I thought that was it, then I saw it was posted just after a post about Farage.

Yeah, me too. It is Blair Mark 2. Inviting big business to take over services, increasing inequality, benefits bashing, foreigner bashing, union bashing, authoritarian streak at home and fuck knows what shit in terms of foreign policy.

It's a weird feeling. The tories have just been smashed and I could not give a single shit.

 

[Dystopiary]

Ah. I thought that was it, then I saw it was posted just after a post about Farage.

Yeah, me too. It is Blair Mark 2. Inviting big business to take over services, increasing inequality, benefits bashing, foreigner bashing, union bashing, authoritarian streak at home and fuck knows what shit in terms of foreign policy.

It's a weird feeling. The tories have just been smashed and I could not give a single shit.

Yeah. I was just feeling it so viscerally. Posted here cos I didn't want to piss on people's chips in the election thread who're just glad the Tories are almost certain to be going. As am I of course, massively, but... yeah, Jeez.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

You've put me off my chips.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

You've put me off my chips.

I'll never ask for vinegar ever again.

 

[Elpenor]

On Farage. I originally come from Devon and saw speech on YouTube he gave in Devon whilst drumming up support. He spoke for half hour off the cuff and knows how to work a crowd. I do not like his politics but I was impressed. Mixture of opposing the elites and supporting the armed forces. In Devon that goes down well . Agree with Owen someone like him could gain if the grown ups who will run the country next do not deliver.

Would agree that - as a Devon immigrant - that would go down well in Devon.

You are right - he understands his audience and what they want to hear

examine what he says forensically and it doesn’t stand up - but who of his audience is doing that

 

[emanymton]

Ah. I thought that was it, then I saw it was posted just after a post about Farage.

Yeah, me too. It is Blair Mark 2. Inviting big business to take over services, increasing inequality, benefits bashing, foreigner bashing, union bashing, authoritarian streak at home and fuck knows what shit in terms of foreign policy.

It's a weird feeling. The tories have just been smashed and I could not give a single shit.

Comparing Stammer to Blair is extremely flattering to Stammer.

 

[imposs1904]

54% turnout in Holborn and St Pancras.

Starmer's personal vote down by 17%.

I'm still calling it. He won't serve 2 terms as Prime Minister.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

54% turnout in Holborn and St Pancras.

Starmer's personal vote down by 17%.

I'm still calling it. He won't serve 2 terms as Prime Minister.

Half the number of people voted for him this time. Miserable turnout. Lots of people clearly couldn't stomach the idea of voting for him.

 

[Cerv]

time to change the thread title? the era of Starmer begins today

 

[Cerv]

I'm still calling it. He won't serve 2 terms as Prime Minister.

cos he's replaced at the top of Labour or cos he leads them to a loss at the next general election?

I'd wager the former. a lot of baggage from Brexit and the Corbyn in-fighting that the party should want a clean break from.

 

[two sheds]

he does bang on doesn't he

 

[imposs1904]

Watching Starmer's speech.

A stonking majority, and Corbyn's still living in his head rent free. Funny that.

 

[imposs1904]

cos he's replaced at the top of Labour or cos he leads them to a loss at the next general election?

I'd wager the former. a lot of baggage from Brexit and the Corbyn in-fighting that the party should want a clean break from.

I do think Starmer is an electoral liability, and it's not implausible that he will be seen as a weak link by those around him.

I'm also not convinced that Labour's massive majority is that solid. This isn't a rerun of 1997 where Labour is guaranteed a couple of election victories whilst the Tories rebuild themselves. I could see it unravelling quite quickly, which leads me back to Starmer being seen as part of the problem.

 

[belboid]

"looks like the lowest turnout on record"

isn't our democracy wonderful?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

"looks like the lowest turnout on record"

isn't our democracy wonderful?

Both Tory and Labour supporters too disgusted by their respective parties to bother voting.

That would be my take. Not surprised at all. People already hate starmer and he's only just got in.

 

[Cid]

The big problem they have is that Starmer can't deviate from the national campaign which is aimed at a demographic who barely exist in his own constituency. The Starmerite base isn't that large. he's been ticking off large quantities of his natural support ever since he became the MP. I've met one person on the street who actually overtly expressed support for Starmer, and 3 on the doorstep who were still considering voting for him. Mostly it's been about explaining that in local terms it's Starmer versus the Lib Dems or Andrew Feinstein. Nobody else is even trying.

Well, got to hand it to you Eric - impressive turnout for Feinstein.

 

[Lord Camomile]

It's a weird feeling. The tories have just been smashed and I could not give a single shit.

Yuuuuuuuuup.

 

[Elpenor]

Fuck off Truss!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Time to change they thread title?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Time to change they thread title?

Patience, padawan...

 

[tommers]

So after all that bullshit. The purges, calling anybody slightly critical of Israel anti-semitic, the slavish adherence to Conservative policy and the refusal to commit to fucking anything at all - they got the same vote share as the last "worst result ever" under the "worst leader ever to have existed".

Fucking hilarious.

 

[Karl Masks]

So after all that bullshit. The purges, calling anybody slightly critical of Israel anti-semitic, the slavish adherence to Conservative policy and the refusal to commit to fucking anything at all - they got the same vote share as the last "worst result ever" under the "worst leader ever to have existed".

Fucking hilarious.

What is their vote share now? It was 32% in 2019.

Clearly there is no thirst for Starmer.

 

[tommers]

What is their vote share now? It was 32% in 2019.

Clearly there is no thirst for Starmer.

Just based off this. I'll see if I can find numbers and this is all "lies, damned lies and statistics" but this isn't like they massively energised the country or something. Look at those seats they lost to independents. That's crazy.

 

[Lord Camomile]

"Sir Keir, you have talked a lot about how much you have managed to change the Labour party since Jeremy Corbyn was in charge. Do you think this is reflected in the change in how many people voted for your Labour party?"

 

[nino_savatte]

I want the Tories gone, and a Labour Party that is actually a safe space for Jews. Pretty much sums it up you find that amusing.

The Labour Party isn't a safe space for people of colour or left-wing Jews, but I don't suppose that bothers you too much, eh? Are you happy with the hierarchy of racism? You must be.

 

[Cid]

See also Jon Ashworth dropping similar shit on Newsnight:

Oops. Fuck off then Jon.

 

[The39thStep]

Corbyn in 2017 - 12,877,918
Corbyn in 2019 - 10,269,051
Starmer in 2024 - 9,650,254